If you are a beleiver in a deity...

Did you have it all sorted before the age of 8?

  • Yes

    Votes: 9 26.5%
  • No - I sorted it in my teems

    Votes: 7 20.6%
  • No - I sorted it all in my twenties

    Votes: 2 5.9%
  • Nope - thirties for me

    Votes: 2 5.9%
  • I'm a slow learner - forties

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Don't judge me - fifties

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Call me fickle - sixties

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Actually it's still a work in progress

    Votes: 14 41.2%

  • Total voters
    34
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snailracer

Über Member
[QUOTE 2376407, member: 1314"]I remember praying in school assembly when I was 6. My family are sikh. I ended up thinking about becoming a christian. I don't think that the school should have put me in that position. I do think it was abuse of their power over children.[/quote]
In Britain, the clergy were pretty much the only people who could read, write, keep books and educate, from the Dark Ages until Victorian times. Oxford and Cambridge universities and innumerable local schools were founded by religious entities. I don't think the church needs to apologize for still being in the education business - if the government wants education to be fully agnostic or atheist, it should build more state schools and run them well enough to compete with the religious ones.
 

snailracer

Über Member
...
5000 years ago and living in what we now call Egypt you might well think the Sun God was the one to worship.
2000 years ago born here you might well be a Druid
2000 years ago born a Roman citizen you would most likely be offering tributes to any number of Roman Gods
200 years ago born in Italy probably a Christian.

It seemed to me that they all thought that they had the ''one true'' religion...
Egypt had a whole pantheon of gods and did not refute the existence of alien deities beyond their own borders. The Romans believed in Roman deities and also accepted the deities of others, which was just as well considering how multicultural they were. The validity of other deities and religions were rather more acceptable to the polytheistic ancients than might be imagined.
...It also struck me that they couldn't all be right so were probably all wrong. I was 13 when I came to that conclusion and it still seems right to me.
So now I don't believe in a deity. There might well be more to life than we immediately perceive so I guess that would make me agnostic.

As ComedyPilot says.............'too many unanswered questions' to be sure about anything.
They may well be all wrong, but that begs the question as to why the belief in deities, spirits and other unprovable entities is so widespread and persistent? The fact that pretty much every recognizable society of any size is, or was until recent times, religiously conformist, to me is proof that religion "worked" for those societies, regardless of whether people in those societies truly believed their deities were real.
I did when I was a kid, simply because it seemed the thing to do. As I got older and into my early teens and learned about other religions, past and present, it seemed to me that what you believed in was just a matter of when and where you were born...
I agree with that. I am pretty sure someone born 500 years in the future would think every previous set of beliefs, morality and government to be wrong, ignorant or outright absurd.
 

rich p

ridiculous old lush
Location
Brighton
Hedging my bets.
Yew wood You would:rolleyes:
 

slowmotion

Quite dreadful
Location
lost somewhere
Yew wood You would:rolleyes:

Like this?
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I'll bet there were plenty of ancient Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, you name it, who didn't believe in "their" gods, either.
And look what happened, Joe! Those Greco-Romans got together to 'wrassle' the French way (oooh la-la mon Dieu!) and the Egyptians? Reggae and pyramid selling...(and I think Slomotion is onto something with the 'Trim your bush for God' thing.)
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snailracer

Über Member
[QUOTE 2401632, member: 1314"]Church of England still had no right to try and convert a 5/6 year old Sikh boy to Christianity. Want a religious war through ignorant laziness? Bring it on. Hypocrites.[/quote]
There is nothing in Sikhism that prohibits a follower from attending the services of another religion.
 

Kies

Guest
There is nothing in Sikhism that prohibits a follower from attending the services of another religion.

A 5/6 year old Sikh boy in an English school would be subjected to lessons about Christianity,without any reference to his own religion. He was not allowed to talk about his religion and the teachers would say that Sikhism is not covered in the curriculum.
I think that's the point cog is making
 
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