Indicating Right

[J4CKO]

Moving to the centre of the road, approaching a roundabout, have looked over my shoulder, checked mirror and indicated right by putting my hi viz covered arm outstretched at a right angle.

Renault Megane convertible, with the obligatory private plate (why do all knobs have them) goes past pretty much brushing my outstretched hand , plenty of time to see me, lit up, hi vizzed and being deliberate so my intentions are easy to interpret.

If I were in my car indicating would he/she have overtaken me, what did the driver think my intention was ?

I have to say, in 18 months its only the second time its happened, most drivers are really good at responding to signals.

 

[Cab]

Only takes one of those to put the willies up you though; the fast, close overtake when you're indicating right. Had a couple of those over the years, not nice. Glad you're not too shaken.

 

[psmiffy]

Hovering on white line waiting for traffic to clear so that I can turn right – white transit van comes from behind - horn blaring – pulls alongside window open and driver issues stream of invective to which I have a one word answer – I turn right and the transit pulls onto the verge and the driver gets out and continues to issue invective to my back

Next evening – gym – finish workout and have short swim followed by sauna – sitting quietly in sauna when the driver of the white van comes into the sauna and continues the diatribe – to which I politely ask that he desists – no result - situation resolved by extremely large muscular gentleman sitting next to me taking him by arm and leading him out – never seen him again

 

[BentMikey]

Quality, psmiffy!!!

 

[J4CKO]

Only takes one of those to put the willies up you though; the fast, close overtake when you're indicating right. Had a couple of those over the years, not nice. Glad you're not too shaken.

Cab, cheers, not shaken, just annoyed, saw it all unfolding, the cars "body language" as seen from my bar end mirror told me it was going to happen.

Turning right in traffic is always a chore as some drivers will risk hitting you to avoid a few seconds delay, its easy if you arent assertive to end up hemmed in waiting on the left hand side looking for a gap.

Only thing I could have done different perhaps was to move even further out, was about dead centre in the lane and that allowed the overtake but I dont get to far over at this junction as occasionally some pillock decides to overtake coming off the roundabout which is pretty hairy.

 

[Cab]

Too far to the right, car undertakes with inches to spare. Not far enough over to the right and you increase the risk of some pillock passing on the right as you overtake. Even the best road position can't usually prevent that happening.

 

[J4CKO]

Too far to the right, car undertakes with inches to spare. Not far enough over to the right and you increase the risk of some pillock passing on the right as you overtake. Even the best road position can't usually prevent that happening.

Agreed, I suppose being only a couple of feet wide has its disadvantages sometimes, the rest of the time its brilliant.

I wouldnt mind fitting a couple of handlebar mounted high powered, paint searing lasers for such eventualities.

 

[Origamist]

Too far to the right, car undertakes with inches to spare. Not far enough over to the right and you increase the risk of some pillock passing on the right as you overtake. Even the best road position can't usually prevent that happening.

Indeed. The only additional thing you can do is angle your bike to take up a bit more road space...

 

[J4CKO]

Indeed. The only additional thing you can do is angle your bike to take up a bit more road space...

Or carry a Gnu in a transverse orientation on the back of your bike.

 

[Origamist]

Or carry a Gnu in a transverse orientation on the back of your bike.

I'd never of thought of a gnu, but I have considered a Hi Viz cow...

 

[Norm]

...but I have considered a Hi Viz cow...

Something along the lines of this?

 

[redjedi]

This reminds me of an incident I had in the summer when I went up to Lincoln.

Riding from the station up the A46, a busy but wide road.

I need to turn right, but there is a lot of fast moving traffic. As there is a large section in the middle of the road I decide to start signalling and if I get a chance I will move into the central "lane"

See here

Even if it's a bit early for my turn, at least the cars can continue on their way.

After signalling for a while, I see a large enough gap that I'm going to move into and command my space. I move into the middle of the lane, keep signalling, and start drifting towards the middle. All this at about 24 MPH.

The woman in the car behind decides she can't wait for me, so starts to overtake. I glare over my shoulder and continue to move right, while still signalling. She continues to move further right and then pass me. If she had waited for a few seconds she wouldn't have needed to to.
But what was her hurry? It turns out she was taking the same turning as me, and soon after passing she has to stop and wait for the on-coming traffic to pass and I stop behind her.
So she gained nothing from her impatience, but I guess she just had to get passed the cyclist.
I gave here a glare through her rear window and a shake of the head, then followed her up the road. I thought about seeing where she went to as it's all residential, but got to my destination and left it at that.

It wasn't a dangerous overtake as she gave me plenty of room, just completely pointless.

 

[J4CKO]

I had one the other night make a big play about getting in front of me before some roadworks, in which she stops and does a 26 point turn to reverse into her drive, blocking me for a couple of minutes whilst she fannies about, I just stood there with my Hope 2 flashing accusingly at her.

 

[SavageHoutkop]

I'd guess it's nothing to do with where you were signalling, it's "CYCLIST - MUST GET PAST" mentality. The number of cars who do it to me, not usually while turning though, when we're both approaching a roundabout in a residential area, or a traffic light (even if it's in the process of turning red, so we're all going to be stuck there waiting for it to change) etc etc...

 

[Davywalnuts]

This weekend has been stupid with the amount of numptys around! What is it with a bit of rain and the stupidity levels increase! Am still a bit disturbed after almost wiping a divvy mum out with her 3 kids that just ignored me cycling, at 20mph in the wet too just brushing past them. Was shouting through my buff on an increasinley louder volume but they didnt see me, just like that School kid on that video last week. It could have been fatal!

But this morning, am taking a right at a junction, (hence my adding to this), this junction http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&s...4VPaBeLCiNQuOEg2h0dGbg&cbp=12,208.71,,0,23.62 sorry, dont know how to shrink the code, anyhow, the traffics slow, but little WVM decides to go around me, "my left", on what is a single lane into a single road, that has floaded along the pavement so when he sees this pulls straight into my lane, as I had kept strong primary as was well under 20mph, I just shook my head and gave the look of disgust. The traffic was jammed entering that road too so I over took him straight away, so what really was his point. Just like above posts say above, gotta get past cyclist! Stupidity!