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IDMark2

Dodgy Aerial
Location
On the Roof
Hi,
Just last month, with some freinds, I rode the Velodyysey route on my Scott P3 (bought used for about £100 two years ago). I enjoyed it but learned some stuff about my choice of bike and it's suitability for the job, particularly as the first week was covering hundreds of kilometres of wet, old railway and canal paths with sandy gloopy surfaces. It would have been alright if the sun was out, as it was later on when we got further south, but the gloop and rain of the first legs nearly broke me and the bike... I did break later on but I don't think it was the bike that did it. I blogged a bit on fourgovelo.wordpress.com for posterity...
Anyway, the lessons learned...
  • A Crud Guard on the downtube will not prevent you getting covered in sandy gloop, particularly when following a rider who has deemed fitting mudguards uneccessary for this trip.
  • A pannier rack with trunk bag will not 'effectively make a mudguard redundant so I won't fit one' and will make you just as popular as the above person who didn't fit mudguards either.
  • The sandy gloop was in fact a brake block and rim eating concoction of terrifying efficiency. A new set of blocks front and rear before I went, replaced after a week of grinding grimness. Rim wear line indicator now gone. Effectively this was grinding at all moving surfaces with a coarse grade sandpaper for five or six hours a day. All the cables will need doing now we're home as well.
  • The sandy gloop will also destroy the ability of a zip on a trunk bag to operate, luckily it was too grim to stop and take many photos anyway.
  • Slickish Gatorskins are not the right tyre choice for gripping in 25mm deep sandy gloop either, but we had no idea there was going to be this much of it... Having said that, one puncture in the 1200km wasn't too bad considering some of the surfaces we covered and they were as reliable as ever on proper roads.
  • I weigh less than my P3 I think. It has budget suspension forks which I knew I didn't really need when I bought it but it had them and I bought it anyway. It was cheap for the quality of the rest of the bike but... They're heavy.
I have a 'proper' road bike, all drop barred, light and stiff and responsive and all that stuff but given the excuse now that the sandy gloop ate my wheel rims, and actually preferring the flat bar approach - I found with a set of stubby bar ends on it and a decent front down position I could get down into headwinds pretty efficiently, enough for touring pace anyway - I'm after a disc braked replacement for future mixed surface adventuring, so rack and mudguard mounts, and for local use as well.

All the manufacturers seem to be jumping on 'Adventure Bikes' and the spec levels and approach of these do make sense to me. They just all seem to be drop bar bikes, which I don't fancy as much really for that sort of use and after my stroke I find the changing of hand positions to be more difficult to do than it used to be, just moving along the flats to the ends is much easier. I like the RapidFire shifters the Scott has as well, I tried my mate Specialized Sirrus one day, lovely and light but thumb for up and down shifting did get me all confused.

Budget £700-1000, any suggestions? Thanks.
 
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cisamcgu

Legendary Member
Location
Merseyside-ish
Oxford bike works make some nice looking bicycles which have good reviews.

http://www.oxfordbikeworks.co.uk/models/model-1e/ £930
http://www.oxfordbikeworks.co.uk/models/model-1/ £1180

I don't know about disc brake options though.

I'd like this one http://www.oxfordbikeworks.co.uk/models/rohloff-tour/ £2450 :wub:

Andrew
 
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IDMark2

IDMark2

Dodgy Aerial
Location
On the Roof
You're right, they're lovely but not quite right for the brakes.. thanks for answering though. :okay:
Further research today threw up a Felt V90 f, just about ideal I think but I can't seem to find a local stockist so I can ride one. Ah well.. I'll keep looking, there's no time pressure.
 
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IDMark2

IDMark2

Dodgy Aerial
Location
On the Roof
This is what I had hoped for you see @vickster, brands and bikes I hadn't thought of.
Thanks for the Plant X link, I'm in Devon though so getting a test ride might be tricky!
There is a Whyte dealer nearby so I'm thinking Cambridge will be enough, most of these will be lighter than my existing Scott and I can cope with the hills on that as it is anyway. I just need a bimble exploring bike for the lanes here, with space for my camera gear in the panniers and better coping on the French railway/forest tracks should we return there (and it's wet again!).
Any thoughts on the Hoy Shizuoka here? There's an Evans down in Plymouth.
 

vickster

Squire
I have the 2011 Cambridge, it's a 10kg bike. Mines a bit slow compared to the road bikes now as it wears Marathon Plus tyres, guards and a rack but again it's essentially a shopping bike and occasional commuter

Not really looked at Hoy bikes, but Evans good for test rides, just need photo ID and a bank card and off you go :smile:
 
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IDMark2

IDMark2

Dodgy Aerial
Location
On the Roof
Hmmm... that 2013 large is just right for my 6ft size, great price...same groupset as my Boardman except smaller crankset...
I wanted to ride one first as there are some online comments regarding heel clearance problems, although many report that SPD use as I would do seems to be immune...further comments on money saving applied in unseen areas like freehubs etc...
just don't want to 'showroom' the LBS... argghhh..:rolleyes:
 

vickster

Squire
I do occasionally catch my heel but I ride on flats and as I say the bike is a bit small for me. It's never bothered me in the slightest
 
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IDMark2

IDMark2

Dodgy Aerial
Location
On the Roof
Update for you @vickster, seeing as this turned in to a conversation between us...
I ordered a.. Giant Revolt... umm... you know, with the drop bars and everything...:blush:
Genuine thanks for your responses though, even though my buying plan was as successful as most of my planning is.
 
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