Mr Pig said:
Eh no, think it was just fine actually :0)
Mr Mycroft, please don't be so touchy.
odd that in a text based medium you don't want me to be touchy over your lack of clarity, and later in the thread your indifference if your comment is unclear, if you are indifferent, why make it?
in the post you said it had nothing to do with the phone, that IT was likely great, but it was the user. how am i as a user of same product ment to take that, that i am a tosser, because according to you, its NOT the phones fault.
if arrogance and exclusivity are something you do not see a value in, because SOME people might find ownership of a product "elitist" why then go to the length of excluding people based on product ownership?
your advice to "not buy one", should that apply to someone seeking advice on a bike? saddle? tires?
perhaps they already own a bike, but you have a problem with it, its not for you, you fear what people would think of YOU if you owned it, so therefore in order to defend yourself from questioning the fear, you find it easier to dismiss and discount someone else's choice.
I read a fair chunk of the opinion on this site about the mentality of drivers seeing cyclists as inferior because they choose to use a product, the bike. and there would appear to be a large portion of psychological evidence to suggest that it is out of fear.
I don't know what your opinion on that is, i was reading the comment, not the names. but i wonder, HOW we might hope to change the drivers perception on choice, if we cannot change our own?
Mr Pig said:
I only know a couple of people who have iPhones and in my opinion the 'toss' factor had a lot to do with the choice. But hey, what do I know? I've never really looked at one because I've never found myself wishing I could level a shelf or knock a nail in with my mobile phone. I'm sure that if I had one I could find obscure tasks I could perform with it, thus demonstrating how clever I...I mean the phone is but a little voice in my head says that other people would just think I was a tosser.
perhaps you need a bigger group from which to poll?
I owned an ipod, and felt combining a phone and an ipod would make for one less device to carry, simple weight reduction, hassle (of charging 2 devices) reduction.
I feel that for me, that was simple common sense, but if that makes me a tosser, well so be it.
PS. just to pre empt, if trying to get to the bottom of why you proclaim all iphone users are tossers, or trying to enlighten you that blanket statements arn't a great idea, and so defend myself. makes me a tosser or touchy, then so be it.
but what would that make you?
I simply wished to help where i could another member, did you seek to put one down? I hope not
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