Questions on bike selection for touring

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montage

God Almighty
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Bethlehem
My current situation is that I have a full ultegra groupset and Shimano r500 wheels + carbon fork, without a frame. I'm primarily interested in racing, but would like a bike that can go for a couple of weeks touring. Note, this will not be my racing bike, but my winter trainer. The touring I will do is hopefully fairly light, any tours I do would frequent towns and youth hostels every couple of days for showers etc.

The first question: Are shimano R500 wheels adequate enough? They are a bit flexy which may be an issue, and I have heard replacement spokes are hard to get hold of (Though I see no reason why I can't use an alternative spoke as a back up - DT swiss perhaps).

Secondly the groupset: I imagine a short cage rear derailleur with a compact setup might not be low enough (34 front 28 rear). Big hills would be ideal as any tour I do I would like to include training benefit. What is the smallest ring you can put on a 110 BCD shimano crankset? Otherwise I guess it is a case of a new rear derailleur and a dinner plate cassette.

Third, and most importantly, the frame: I am looking at the ribble audax (£99 for just the frame is a bargain). I am aware the geometry is a bit racey with long top tube, I can deal with that, but I am interested to know whether people have toured successfully on this and what their opinions are. The lack of clearance for tyres more than 23c when using mudguards sounds like it should be a concern. The other frame I am considering is around the £200 mark - the Kinesis racelight T2. I know little about this, does anyone have experience?

I also have some friction bar end shifters at my service, should these be used instead of the ultegra sti shifters in order to minimise faff (running 10 speed).

Many thanks
Apologies if this post is in the wrong place - might be better off in the know how section

Edit: I should add that I do have another touring option - I have a heavy steel singlespeed that could have gears and a rack whacked onto it and be fairly sturdy. Not ideal, and certainly no whippet, but a possible alternative. Singlespeed touring isn't off the menu either but is fairly limiting
 

Cycleops

Legendary Member
Location
Accra, Ghana
You can tour on virtually any bike, it's just that it might be less than ideal. I think with what you are suggesting you shouldn't have any problem, you just need to keep the weight down, preferably less than eight kilos.If you need a tent you can buy ones that are less than 1 1/2 k. I would have thought an Audax frame could take up to 28c tyres, I can get them on my old Dawes racer. Can't comment on the wheels. It might be worth getting a 12-32 cassette to help with the low gearing, a Shimano 105 med cage at about £40 will do the job, which is what I have on the aformentioned bike. I shouldn't worry about the bar ends. Don't worry, you can do it!
 

bigjim

Legendary Member
Location
Manchester. UK
With a12-32 cassette you might just get away without changing the rear mech.
I would not bother fitting a rear mudguard. I'd rather fit a good 28c tyre. Just fit a front mudguard. A rack or saddlebag will keep the rain off your back The bike will live with getting a bit wet. I've done the last few tours withough a rear MG.
I've got a set of these wheels and never had a problem though I don't tour with them but I'm 14 stone and carry a bit of luggage on day rides. Didn't know you could not get spokes.
Carry a set of DT levers if you are worrying about gear failure. They weigh nothing, cost little on e-bay and easy to fit.
 

TheDoctor

Noble and true, with a heart of steel
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Location
The TerrorVortex
I've toured on a Ribble audax with R500 wheels - no problem at all. I did bust a spoke, but I had no problem finding a spare. I'd maybe hesitate at carrying full camping gear on a minimally-spoked wheel, but if you're lighter than me (which most people are :sad:) then you should be fine.
Now, gearing. Smallest inner on a compact is 33T, but the difference between that and the 34T it comes with is minimal. I'd have a go at getting a bigger cassette on there. My carbon bike is running a compact with 11-32 cassette and a 105 mech, which just about works. There's a little noise in bottom gear as the jockey wheel interferes with the 32T sprocket, but I can live with it.
Here's a photo of my Ribble as it currently is - I've now got Open Pro wheels on it, as the R500s are on something else...
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P.H

Über Member
The other frame I am considering is around the £200 mark - the Kinesis racelight T2. I know little about this, does anyone have experience?

The Racelight is an excellent frame and has better tyre clearance than the Ribble, I had one for a couple of years and then foolishly traded it up to a Ti frame which TBH was not any better. If the roads round your way are anything like round here in the winter, I'd prefer that clearance on a winter trainer as well as a tourer. If you do go for the Ribble, it's certainly a bargain, I'd follow bigjims advice and leave the rear mudguard off while touring and fit a wider tyre.
 
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