Recommend me a cheap 4 wire cable for bi-wiring speakers....

[RhythMick]

I prefer stuff made by magic elves, unicorns are terrible with close work and their hooves are useless for technical fabrication.

Haha

 

[Fab Foodie]

By the way, nothing wrong with that kit and don't let anyone persuade you that aged means needing replacement. Those Rogers speakers will be full and warm I'd imagine. I haven't heard the Audiolab.

Do you play vinyl?

Thanks for the advice RT
Yes I play Vinyl on a TD160 with an SME 3009 and CD via an Old Arcam Alpha 7SE
And you're right, the Rogers are warm as toast, The Audiolab is fairly clean with a decent power supply and both the Arcam and Turntable are on the warmish/rich side. It's comfortable listening. With better cables it'll all sound much more open and focussed. Thanks for the cable offer, I'd need a bit more.
I'm not about to change anything for a while except the Speakers primarily because the Rogers are too big aesthetically for the room (and a bit big sonically too .... but great for street parties ).
I fancy these ... I'm a fan of transmission lines and they're quite tidy size-wise.
http://www.iplacoustics.co.uk/M1tl.htm

 

[Fab Foodie]

Try this.
CSA 2.5 mm2 , 79 / 0.2mm 2 Core and use two for each speaker
from here...
http://www.qvsdirect.com/Speaker-Cable-79-0.2mm-2-Core-79-Strand-Cut-Length-pr-18821.html

Anything costing much more is getting a bit psychosomatic.

Thanks slowmotion, that looks just the ticket for the hard of wallet!

 

[slowmotion]

Hi-fi buffs say thay you should use identical cable lengths for both speakers. Coil up any excess in a figure of eight pattern, not a ring. At that price, it's probably worth a punt.

 

[RhythMick]

Thanks for the advice RT
Yes I play Vinyl on a TD160 with an SME 3009 and CD via an Old Arcam Alpha 7SE
And you're right, the Rogers are warm as toast, The Audiolab is fairly clean with a decent power supply and both the Arcam and Turntable are on the warmish/rich side. It's comfortable listening. With better cables it'll all sound much more open and focussed. Thanks for the cable offer, I'd need a bit more.
I'm not about to change anything for a while except the Speakers primarily because the Rogers are too big aesthetically for the room (and a bit big sonically too .... but great for street parties ).
I fancy these ... I'm a fan of transmission lines and they're quite tidy size-wise.
http://www.iplacoustics.co.uk/M1tl.htm

Hmmm. That looks like a folded horn design? I don't know those speakers. I use Lowthers which are superb horns and very sensitive, but whether they'll mesh well with the Audiolab I couldn't say. Sensitive speakers work much better with low power amps, with the 1st Watt being the important one. My amp puts out less than 5W, but you wouldn't use more than half of it.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Hmmm. That looks like a folded horn design? I don't know those speakers. I use Lowthers which are superb horns and very sensitive, but whether they'll mesh well with the Audiolab I couldn't say. Sensitive speakers work much better with low power amps, with the 1st Watt being the important one. My amp puts out less than 5W, but you wouldn't use more than half of it.

Kind of, but in reverse!
They create very very low frequencies effortlessly for a relatively small box and will produce them quite sweetly at low volumes. Unlike horns they're no less sensitive than most other standard speaker types, so the Audiolabs 50w will be required to run them well. To me they sound very open and natural and are very good at making the window frames rattle! I've hankered after a pair for years.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acoustic_transmission_line

 

[RhythMick]

Thanks I'll have a look at those.

 

[Milo]

I would not bother with bi wiring myself frankly never noticed much when I tried it. Bi amping on the other hand is noticeable. Cant even use fancy cables on my kit my speakers use din inputs so nothing too thick. I used to be right drawn in by all the speaker cable and interconnect guff until I released what a load of bollocks most of it is.

 

[Fab Foodie]

I would not bother with bi wiring myself frankly never noticed much when I tried it. Bi amping on the other is noticeable.

There was a definate improvement when I did it before.

 

[Milo]

Measurable? That's what put me off all the interconnect lark placebo is just far to powerful and audio quality far to subjective. It fooled me into wasting plenty of cash on speaker cable etc. Anyhoo I really don't want to start a speaker cable debate plenty of time has been dedicated to that one.

 

[Fab Foodie]

Measurable?

With what exactly?
I thought it sounded better and I'm happy enough to trust my judgement to spend a little cash and time and repeat the experience.
I've 2 sets of terminals from the amp and 2 sets on the speakers, ain't no big thang.

 

[SpokeyDokey]

I would not bother with bi wiring myself frankly never noticed much when I tried it. Bi amping on the other hand is noticeable. Cant even use fancy cables on my kit my speakers use din inputs so nothing too thick. I used to be right drawn in by all the speaker cable and interconnect guff until I released what a load of bollocks most of it is.

I agree but would probably have phrased it differently.

I have had a fair bit of decent kit over the years (currently Sugden/Dynaudio/Logitech Streamer) and played about with bi-wiring and even bi-amping some years ago and basically found no benefit.

That's not to say other people won't though. My set-up cost the price of a small car, however, a friend with a system that cost the price of a decent German car thinks it sounds like a bag of nails. My daughter on the other hand thinks a screeching iPod is musical nirvana.

I too got sucked into the interconnect/cabling malarky but eventually good sense won out.

Like everything that you buy in life somebody somewhere is trying to tell you that what they said yesterday about their product is now garbage but that what they say today is truly the next big thing and you absolutely must believe them.

Marketing is the art of packaging up small incremental changes and selling them as quantum leaps.