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Pale Rider

Legendary Member
The 20" wheel ebikes are a lot handier than 'full size' wheel ones.

That model has a small, but neat, battery in the cross bar.

Range might only be 20 or 25 miles, but that's unlikely to be a problem for the proposed use.

It has three power levels which is enough, and gears which will be required for the climb.

Motor rating is not clear from the website, but it's Bafang which is a decent Chinese make.
 

Smudge

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The only thing I could see that mentioned watts at all, was right at the bottom of the page, but it's as watt-hours. 313Wh

Thats the battery. Watt/hr divided by the volts of the system, which is 36, gives a 8.7 amp/hr battery.
 

Pale Rider

Legendary Member
The only thing I could see that mentioned watts at all, was right at the bottom of the page, but it's as watt-hours. 313Wh

As Smudge says, watt hours is battery capacity.

What we are looking for is 36 volts rather than 24 for improved grunt.

I agree with Smudge, it appears the bike has a 36 volt motor, so all should be well.
 
OP
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Kell

Kell

Veteran
As mentioned, I don't really profess to understand what makes one good and another bad, but the one she went to look at originally was 24v and 4.8Ah.

As Smudge say, this is listed as 36v and 8.7Ah.

Fingers crossed.

Thanks for the responses.
 

Smudge

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One thing that often irks me about hub motor ebikes and ekits, is that they rarely give the torque figures. You often have to find out what hub motor it is exactly and then go searching online.
Although lower torque motors will give more grunt on smaller wheels like this 20" folder, than the same system would give on larger 26" to 28" wheels. Which is obviously down to physics, but how much torque an ebike has can make a big difference, even when its legal 250W and 15.5 mph cut off.
 

Pale Rider

Legendary Member
Yes, its small wheels will help its climbing ability whatever the size of motor.

It's the same reason why Bromptons accelerate so well from rest - something the OP knows better than most.

All batteries sag, which means it will give more grunt when nearly full than when nearly empty.

Best idea is to keep the battery as close to fully charged as possible, which is also good for its overall service life.
 
OP
OP
Kell

Kell

Veteran
Yes, its small wheels will help its climbing ability whatever the size of motor.

It's the same reason why Bromptons accelerate so well from rest - something the OP knows better than most.

Funny you say that about the wheels, I've just found out it's not the bike I linked to.

It's this one:

Pendleton Somerby Electric Bike

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Approximate Weight (KG): 22kg
Brake Type: V-Brakes
Forks: Alloy
Frame Material: Aluminium
Gender: Unisex
Maximum Rider Weight: 120kg
Maximum Speed: 15.5mph (25 kph)
Number of Gears: 8
Pedals Included: Yes
Recharge Time: 4-5 hours
Suspension: Rigid
System voltage: 36V
Wheel Size: 700c
Amps: 8.80Ah
Battery: Phylion
Battery Features: On/off watch
Battery warranty: 2 years/500 charges
Battery Weight: 2.3kg
Bottom Bracket: Sealed
Cassette/Freewheel: 8 speed, 13-32t
Chain: KMC 8 speed
Chainguard: Yes
Chainset: Alloy 170mm, 38t
Component warranty: 2 year on electrics, 1 year other components
Crank Arm: Alloy
Digital battery charger: Charger supplied
Display: LED Display
Display Features: 3 settings
Drive Type: Rear drive
Electric Bike System: Bafang
Frame: Aluminium frame, Low step through, reinforced and designed for E-bike use
Frame warranty: 2 years
Front Brake: Tektro Aluminium V- Brakes
Front Hub: Alloy
Front/Rear Wheel Drive: Rear drive
Gear Shifters: Shimano Acera
Gears: Shimano Acera 8 speed
Grips: Pendleton Ergonomic
Handlebars: Classic style swept-back bars
Headset: 1/8" threaded
Maximum Range: Up to 50 miles
Motor Rating: 6.5
Mudguard Mounts: Muduards included
Pannier Rack: Yes
Pedals: Plastic, 9/16" thread
Quick Release Front Wheel: No
Quick Release Rear Wheel: No
Rear Brake: Tektro Aluminium V- Brakes
Rear Hub: Bafang Motor
Rear Mech: Shimano Acera 7/8 speed
Removable Battery: Yes
Rims: Double Wall Alloy 700c 36H
Saddle: Velo sprung, deep padded saddle
Seatpost: Alloy 27.2mm, 350mm with clamp
Stem: Alloy, 80mm, 30 degrees rise
Tyre Size: 700 x 38c
Tyres: Kenda, Anti Puncture, reflective
Watt-Hour: 317Wh
 
OP
OP
Kell

Kell

Veteran
He is loving it as it goes.

Gets him up the hill, which was the main thing, but also meant he could go out with my BIL a few weeks back. And not be left behind.

While he's very active for an 80 year old, it is starting to catch up with him.
 

CXRAndy

Guru
Location
Lincs
Funny you say that about the wheels, I've just found out it's not the bike I linked to.

It's this one:

Pendleton Somerby Electric Bike

View attachment 471227

Approximate Weight (KG): 22kg
Brake Type: V-Brakes
Forks: Alloy
Frame Material: Aluminium
Gender: Unisex
Maximum Rider Weight: 120kg
Maximum Speed: 15.5mph (25 kph)
Number of Gears: 8
Pedals Included: Yes
Recharge Time: 4-5 hours
Suspension: Rigid
System voltage: 36V
Wheel Size: 700c
Amps: 8.80Ah
Battery: Phylion
Battery Features: On/off watch
Battery warranty: 2 years/500 charges
Battery Weight: 2.3kg
Bottom Bracket: Sealed
Cassette/Freewheel: 8 speed, 13-32t
Chain: KMC 8 speed
Chainguard: Yes
Chainset: Alloy 170mm, 38t
Component warranty: 2 year on electrics, 1 year other components
Crank Arm: Alloy
Digital battery charger: Charger supplied
Display: LED Display
Display Features: 3 settings
Drive Type: Rear drive
Electric Bike System: Bafang
Frame: Aluminium frame, Low step through, reinforced and designed for E-bike use
Frame warranty: 2 years
Front Brake: Tektro Aluminium V- Brakes
Front Hub: Alloy
Front/Rear Wheel Drive: Rear drive
Gear Shifters: Shimano Acera
Gears: Shimano Acera 8 speed
Grips: Pendleton Ergonomic
Handlebars: Classic style swept-back bars
Headset: 1/8" threaded
Maximum Range: Up to 50 miles
Motor Rating: 6.5
Mudguard Mounts: Muduards included
Pannier Rack: Yes
Pedals: Plastic, 9/16" thread
Quick Release Front Wheel: No
Quick Release Rear Wheel: No
Rear Brake: Tektro Aluminium V- Brakes
Rear Hub: Bafang Motor
Rear Mech: Shimano Acera 7/8 speed
Removable Battery: Yes
Rims: Double Wall Alloy 700c 36H
Saddle: Velo sprung, deep padded saddle
Seatpost: Alloy 27.2mm, 350mm with clamp
Stem: Alloy, 80mm, 30 degrees rise
Tyre Size: 700 x 38c
Tyres: Kenda, Anti Puncture, reflective
Watt-Hour: 317Wh

£700-800- that's is not a bad price

I made this for £1k
52 Volt 13.5Ah
100 mile range
8 speed geared hub
multi level assist
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