Recommendations sought for all season commuter bike

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John_S

Über Member
Hello All,

I wonder if anyone has any advice or ideas on bikes that I could consider for all year round commuting to and from work. My commute is a 20 mile round trip on a mixture of rural and urban roads. Whilst I know that there isn’t any bike out there which would be no maintenance however I’d like it to be as low maintenance as possible. I work long hours have a toddler plus another baby on the way and so whilst I’d love to spend plenty of time maintaining my bike being realistic my prospect of finding lots of time for maintenance is not an option.

I’d like to make use of the cycle to work scheme and so keeping the budget under £1,000 is a must. I do have a list of things that I’d love to have on a bike and there are a few bikes which meet some of my requirements plus one which meets all of them but isn’t available to buy in the UK.

Because I’ll be commuting all year around in all conditions, whatever the weather, my dream wish list for a bike would include the following. Now I know that I could buy a bike without any of these things and buy most if not all of these things separately but if I could buy a bike with everything already fitted then that would be great.


Mudguards;
Pannier Rack;
Internal hub gears;
Dynamo hub;
Dynamo lights;
Disc brakes;
and if possible a Gates Carbon Belt Drive.

Now I’ve found a bike that ticks all of the above boxes and would be perfect for me. It’s the Breezer Beltway Elite:-

http://www.breezerbikes.com/bikes/details/beltway-elite

Unfortunately it doesn’t appear that Breezer bikes aren’t sold in the UK. There is a distributor who will import it from Germany but if I did that it would not be possible to use the Cycle to Work Scheme. On this point in an ideal world I’d like to be able to buy a bike from a local bike shop which is also why I’m not keen on importing a bike.

When searching for bikes that fit my dream wish list I there is one bike I’ve found from a British company and I’d love to support a British bike company however this bike is way over my budget. Looking at the specs the Milk Bikes RDA would potentially make a great low maintenance commuter however as mentioned unfortunately it’s more than I can afford:-

http://www.milkbikes.com/rda/8-rda-the-commuter.html

The Focus Wasgo 3.0 ticks quite a lot of boxes however I would much prefer disc brakes and so it doesn’t tick as many boxes as the Breezer Beltway Elite.

http://www.focus-bikes.com/gb/en/bikes/2014/trekking/wasgo/wasgo-tr-30.html

Looking at other bikes in the Focus range there is the Planet 2.0 which has disc brakes and the Gates Carbon Belt Drive but there’s no of the features that I see as essential for all year around commuting such as mudguards and a rack. In addition with no dynamo I’d need to get the wheel rebuilt with a dynamo hub.

http://www.focus-bikes.com/gb/en/bikes/2014/urban/planeturban/planet-20.html

However if I did go down the road of taking a more basic bike and having to add all of the commuter kit then there is the Roux Carbon Drive A8 but as with the Focus Planet 2.0 I’d be having to add the mudguards, rack, dynamo, dynamo lights etc.

http://rouxbikes.co.uk/shop/carbon-drive-a8/

At the moment I’d be grateful for any advice suggestions from people who can recommend bikes for commuting, from anyone who has had any of the bikes above and can say anything about them or from anyone who has alternative commuter bikes that they could suggest that I look at. As mentioned above from looking at the specs the Breezer Beltway Elite matches all of my requirements but I’m left really frustrated because I can’t buy it from a bike shop in the UK and it seems a difficult task to find anything similar at under £1,000

Thanks to anyone who can offer any thoughts and advice!

John
 

GlenBen

Über Member
Rose do a similar kind of bike, black water. Im sure they have a shop in the uk now too? Start around £900 depending on spec.
 

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
I'm not sure you can buy a bike with hub gears, hub lights, disk brakes and belt drive for under £1000.
I know that isnt very helpful, but you may have to compromise on some things.
 

leemo

Commuter
Location
London
Genesis day one?

Will take mudguards and rack
Alfine hub gear
Disc brakes
Not a belt drive though
Change the front hub to have dynamo and add lights.

8 speed hub gear version is £1k. However if you are in a flat area man up and get the cheaper lighter simpler single speed for 700 add the extras and you'll be within budget.
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Trek Soho deluxe. Ticks most of the boxes, is as close to maintenance free as you can get, and leaves you plenty left over for a top end light ser.
 

Pale Rider

Legendary Member
Don't be too set on the belt drive.

They are notoriously picky for alignment and tension.

Gates describe belt life as 'about twice that of a chain' which, with belts at £80 or so, that could add a fair bit to your maintenance bill.

A hub drive gives a higher chain line, and you will find the chain stays much cleaner than on a derailleur bike which must mean longer life.

Some reliability problems with the Alfine 11, but the Alfine/Nexus 8 is bomb proof.

They have about the same gear range, but neither has a very low first gear.

Fine if you are quite fit and are not tackling many steep hills, but bear in mind whatever bike you buy will be relatively heavy.

Your spec is classic German trekking bike, so I wondered if someone such as Cube had something suitable.

Sure enough, about £850 gets you this, UK supplied, so no probs with the cycle scheme.

http://www.cube.eu/uk/bikes/tour/travel/cube-travel-sl-rf-anthrazit-green-2015/
 
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John_S

Über Member
Hi All,

Thanks to everyone about and I'll check out all of the bikes that you've mentioned. This is a great help as there's already loads of bikes that I'd not heard of or found when trying to search.

On the subject of single speed I've been thinking about this and I'd be quite keen to get a single speed if the bikes only use was going to be for my commuting on the road. However whilst the bikes primary use will be as my daily commuter it will also be used to tow children in a trailer or shopping in the trailer when I've not got children with me. In addition, on occasions, I'll use the bike on dirt tracks and off road cycle paths when I'm on family rides. Therefore for that reason I think that at this time I'd prefer to stick to a bike with gears and an internal hub geared bike if possible.

As mentioned I'm going to look at all of the bikes that you've mentioned and put them on my short list as well as go to all of my local bikes shops to see if I can find any of them in a shop nearby.

The first link that I've clicked on so far is for the Cube Travel SL and I have to say thank you to Pale Rider as this pretty much seems back on perfect spec wise and so thanks for such a quick nailed on suggestion! I'll also be looking at everything else though to try and find the best option.

Thanks to all for your help and advice, it's much appreciated! Also thanks in advance for any future replies with additional suggestions.

John
 

martinclive

Über Member
Location
Fens, Cambridge
Hi All,

On the subject of single speed I've been thinking about this and I'd be quite keen to get a single speed if the bikes only use was going to be for my commuting on the road. However whilst the bikes primary use will be as my daily commuter it will also be used to tow children in a trailer or shopping in the trailer when I've not got children with me. In addition, on occasions, I'll use the bike on dirt tracks and off road cycle paths when I'm on family rides. Therefore for that reason I think that at this time I'd prefer to stick to a bike with gears and an internal hub geared bike if possible.
John

Could still use a single speed with flip flop hub and different gearing for commuting and trailer towing - just flicking the back wheel off and turning around is a two minute job.................
 

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
Hi All,

Thanks to everyone about and I'll check out all of the bikes that you've mentioned. This is a great help as there's already loads of bikes that I'd not heard of or found when trying to search.

On the subject of single speed I've been thinking about this and I'd be quite keen to get a single speed if the bikes only use was going to be for my commuting on the road. However whilst the bikes primary use will be as my daily commuter it will also be used to tow children in a trailer or shopping in the trailer when I've not got children with me. In addition, on occasions, I'll use the bike on dirt tracks and off road cycle paths when I'm on family rides. Therefore for that reason I think that at this time I'd prefer to stick to a bike with gears and an internal hub geared bike if possible.

As mentioned I'm going to look at all of the bikes that you've mentioned and put them on my short list as well as go to all of my local bikes shops to see if I can find any of them in a shop nearby.

The first link that I've clicked on so far is for the Cube Travel SL and I have to say thank you to Pale Rider as this pretty much seems back on perfect spec wise and so thanks for such a quick nailed on suggestion! I'll also be looking at everything else though to try and find the best option.

Thanks to all for your help and advice, it's much appreciated! Also thanks in advance for any future replies with additional suggestions.

John
It is very refreshing to see a first time poster come back and say thank you. So often someone will post a query, get loads of feed back and never be seen again. So thanks for saying thanks.
Please keep us posted in your hunt for the perfect commuter bike.
 

Tynan

Veteran
Location
e4
modern led lights are so bright and run for so long on rechargeable batteries, I wouldn't bother with hub dynamos, those can still go wrong and will cost a lot more than regular standalone light
 

Profpointy

Legendary Member
Some thoughts, perhaps echoing some of the other comments.

Panniers & mudguards - abso-bloody-lutely. I really don't get the joys of a wet arse looking like an attack of explosive dysentry up your back all the way to the top of your head, nor the pleasures of a heavy rucksack, when even a huge load can be stuck in panniers unnoticed (other than slowness uphill obviously)

I'd not bother with a dynamo. With modern leds Batteries in my lights last just fine daily winter commutes - maybe a year or more for dry cells in the back and the rechargable front needs recharging weekly or two weekly at worst.

Now i've never had disc brakes, so this next bit is more surmise than expertise but i don't think discs are trouble free by any means and can cause grief. Good discs might well be better for stopping in the wet to be fair, but again with modern high quality pad materials on rim brakes - stopping is pretty good, and rim brakes are easy to fettle. My moderately light mavic rims are still going strong after 12-15,000 miles of all weather riding. You also have to have special forks and other constriants, and more cost and weight , and on the back there's even less point. On my motorcycle at least, hydraulic disc brakes where far from trouble free in the winter. That said, i've admittedly not had discs on push bike so I could be totally wrong :-)

I'm predjudiced against hub gears, having narrowly missed crushing my bollocks on the cross bar of my old sturmey archer 3 speed. But again, possibly things have improved in 35 years - and i can well believe the rohloff is pretty good kit, albeit brutally pricey. There are other options in between I guess. Still, derrailleurs are well proven though do need (simple) fettling. Perhaps not a silly option, but do your homework.

Belt drive - not convinced - chains are efficient, cheap, and trivially easy to replace. With a belt you have to have a cut in the frame, or a life of the bike belt - mmm?
And limits your choice of machine too.

Fixed wheel would be a great choice for a commuter (virtually any terrain) and for occasional longer runs if not too hilly - but as you say, not a great choice if pulling a trailer with kids in etc. With this later use, i'd suggest gearing it pretty low, whether derailleuer or hub gears. Most so called "road" bikes, or "racers" as we used to call them are frsnkly geared to high for sensible multipurpose use in my vies.

You mention (mild?) off road use - one hint is not to over specify on the heavy duty side, not superlight maybe, but don't get suspension or excessively heavy duty wheels unless doing proper mountain biking. Trails and farm tracks etc are fine on a tourer or medium-ish audax type bike.

I'd not dismiss drop handlebars, unless perhaps there's a back problem or similar. They give a much bigger choice of hand positions, and get you out of the wind. Battling into a headwind, even going quite slowly is demoralising , so being unable to tuck down makes a huge difference. they are not just for racers and the lycra mob. I've had drop bars since age 15 (a long time ago) and i'd never have a flat barred bike again. Even my off-road biased Thorn tourer has drop bars.
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
Seriously for the spec of bike you want you are going to have to spend a lot more than £1k! And don't let the tax relief scheme limited to £1k dictate your choice of bike as you will get some thing that isn't what you want. Better to get the spec you want and pay a little more than put money into something that isn't what you want or need. If riding all year you DO need as low a maintenance bike as possible as the British weather is crap. Period.

This bike is a low maintenance bike to die for http://www.shandcycles.com/frames/allroad-plus/stoater-plus-overview/
 
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