road bike - 2 weeks?

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burbyjamjaa

New Member
hey i'm planning a two week journey, netherlands, germany (and maybe czech r, austria) and am wondering if i can get away with lightly loading a road bike? i own a 1987 cannondale which i dont think is quite up to the task! but i have been looking at the verenti kilmeston as a possible bike and also looking at the charge mixer 8 2011 but i dont know how easy/appropriate it would be to fit drops to it... i think basically im worried that buying a full blown tourer will be a bad decision in the long run as i want somthing which can be a winter commute bike as well, thankyou for any suggestions!
 
hey i'm planning a two week journey, netherlands, germany (and maybe czech r, austria) and am wondering if i can get away with lightly loading a road bike? i own a 1987 cannondale which i dont think is quite up to the task! but i have been looking at the verenti kilmeston as a possible bike and also looking at the charge mixer 8 2011 but i dont know how easy/appropriate it would be to fit drops to it... i think basically im worried that buying a full blown tourer will be a bad decision in the long run as i want somthing which can be a winter commute bike as well, thankyou for any suggestions!

As full blown tourers as designed to be used across the worlds climates, you shoud have no problems using it to Cummute during the winter. I dont think the Charge mixers have rack mounting bosses, which is something that will make fitting racks easier, but I use a charge duster for touring, and the 2010 model was bossless but the 2011 model has bosses, so maybe the same for the mixer.
 

frank9755

Cyclist
Location
West London
I think your fears are unfounded - I can't think of anything better than a tourer for winter commuting!

Mudguards, fatter tyres, mid-range drive train to give decent shifting but not wear out in 5 minutes, best compromise between speed and reliability...
 

007fair

Senior Member
Location
Glasgow Brr ..
hey i'm planning a two week journey, netherlands, germany (and maybe czech r, austria) and am wondering if i can get away with lightly loading a road bike? i own a 1987 cannondale which i dont think is quite up to the task! but i have been looking at the verenti kilmeston as a possible bike and also looking at the charge mixer 8 2011 but i dont know how easy/appropriate it would be to fit drops to it... i think basically im worried that buying a full blown tourer will be a bad decision in the long run as i want somthing which can be a winter commute bike as well, thankyou for any suggestions!

You ask 2 questions... for the first 'hey i'm planning a two week journey, netherlands, germany (and maybe czech r, austria) and am wondering if i can get away with lightly loading a road bike?' ... then I hope so! as I am planning a LEJOG on my road bike (GIANT SCR2) and maybe some other tours All light Credit Card touring though Other threads cover this including this one I posted a while ago
https://www.cyclechat.net/
 

andym

Über Member
A road bike should be fine - within reason, depending on how much you're planning on carrying.

If you can only get one bike for winter commuting and summer holidays then that doesn't preclude a touring bike, or alternatively getting a winter commuter and fitting a rack to it. the important things are to have suitable gears, clearance for bigger tyres and mountings for racks.

Forget about labels like 'touring'.The two bikes you indicate seem to have almost nothing in common!

Most people would regard the gearing on the Wiggle silly-made-up-name bike as too high either for a summer tourer I'd doubt it would be much use on a winter commuter either - unless you have a long flat commute. I'd advise looking at a bike with a triple chainring (48T or 44T) largest chainring) plus rear mech capable of handling an 11-34 cassette (even if you decide to go for a  narrower range). Don't know about the Alfine - worth doing some research to find out what range of gears you get.
 

Alexios

New Member
Hi Burby,

If you keep weight down a road bike should be absolutely fine for 2 weeks in Europe. I recently did a week in Eastern Turkey on a Trek 1.5 road bike on roads far worse than I expect you'll face with no problems at all. In fact I'd positively recommend the road bike for light touring: it will be lighter and more aerodynamic than a tourer of the same price so you'll get everywhere faster and so have more time to explore off the bike.
 

andym

Über Member
<In fact I'd positively recommend the road bike for light touring: it will be lighter and more aerodynamic than a tourer of the same price so you'll get everywhere faster and so have more time to explore off the bike.

There might be some difference between the aerodynamicness (sorry made up word) of a flat-barred bike vs a drop-barred roadbike but I very much doubt there's any *significant* difference between two drop barred-bikes.
 

willem

Über Member
Road bikes are fun, but do not make good tourers or commuters. Road bikes have light and fragile wheels, only clearance for narrow tyres, and their frames are not stiff enough for luggage, and their geometries are often too nervous as well. Finally, modern road bikes do not normally have eyelets for racks.
For a tourer you want a stronger and stiffer frame and wheels, and clearance for wider tyres, both because those can carry more weight, and because they allow you to ride rough roads and trails in comfort. For a commuter you want clearance for wider winter tyres such as the 37 mm Conti Topcontact Winter II, and for mudguards. Finally, on a commuter bike you want a hub generator and good lights. In short, demand for a tourer and a winter commuter are quite similar. How stiff/strong and wide tyred your tourer should ideally be depends on the amount of luggage you plan to take (I love camping), and the roads you have in mind. I like routes that include sections of rough stuff, if only to avoid dangerously busy roads.
Of course you can perhaps make do with a road bike. This depends on where you want to ride, how much you want to take, and what kind of bike it is. If you take little, have a more traditional steel road bike with clearance for 32 mm tyres and traditional wheels with 32 or 36 spoke wheels, and avoid the worst roads, you should be fine. If you have a modern carbon monster with trendy wheels with few spokes you better leave it home. Your Cannondale probably falls somewehere between these extremes, and may just be usable if you take only little luggage in a saddle bag.
If you really want a bike for touring and commuting, get something like a Surly Long Haul Trucker, a Thorn Club Tour, or even a Thorn Sherpa, with lights and a rear rack. If you really want to go touring, go camping. It is so much more fun than hotels, really. But do not take too much luggage if you do.
Willem
 

Moodyman

Legendary Member
Agree with all of the above.

Re the Charge Mixer - don't. It's a wonderful commuter and has eyelets for rear panniers, but lacks the ultra low gearing for touring. Also, I don't think the Alfine will stand up for the rigours of full blown touring.
 
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burbyjamjaa

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ahh! thankyou very much for the replies all very usefull! think im going to go for the ridgeback century, lightweight, low gearing and lots of pesky spokes : )
 
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