Roads policing in Ireland

[raleighnut]

We couldn't have had the same situation in England because our health law is national and most would rather protect people who are trying to look after their own health by not smoking,

I smoke through choice, I gave up for 3 months after my 2nd operation (intramedullary 'nail' in broken Femur) and I have never been so bored in my life. Now I don't drive but I have to put up with exhaust fumes when on my bike/trike or walking (well Hobbling) in town. I'd cheerfully ban Cars and trucks tomorrow along with aeroplanes and shipping (back to Sail and horses) after all we coped for thousands of years without them

 

[Gillstay]

My father was a publican and he fitted a smoke filter so everyone could enjoy the pub not just the selfish smokers.

I was always amazed that very few other pubs did it. Mind you cleaning the filters was a horrible task and enough to put me off smoking.

 

[Webbo2]

I smoke through choice, I gave up for 3 months after my 2nd operation (intramedullary 'nail' in broken Femur) and I have never been so bored in my life. Now I don't drive but I have to put up with exhaust fumes when on my bike/trike or walking (well Hobbling) in town. I'd cheerfully ban Cars and trucks tomorrow along with aeroplanes and shipping (back to Sail and horses) after all we coped for thousands of years without them

So if you banned cars tomorrow how would those poor rural drinkers get to the pub.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

 

[raleighnut]

So if you banned cars tomorrow how would those poor rural drinkers get to the pub.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Pony and Trap.

 

[Webbo2]

Pony and Trap.

That’s a crap solution.😉

 

[tyred]

Pony and Trap.

The good thing is that the pony will know it's own way home if you're legless.

 

[tyred]

Road policing doesn't really exist here. People mostly do as they please on the road, and probably nobody will stop you unless you actually crash into something. Apart from anything else, there just isn't the manpower to do it anyway.

There's also a lot of disillusionment and apathy amongst the Gardai for many reasons.

Even if they do bother, the courts will probably not give any meaningful punishment anyway as the right to drive a car is enshrined.

 

[Alex321]

As for myself I no longer go to the pub far preferring to drink at home, I can get a reasonable bottle of Wine for the price of a Pint the music is better and the company far better.

That has become more and more true for a lot of people in recent years, and is probably far more significant in pub closures than the smoking ban.

 

[Alex321]

I smoke through choice, I gave up for 3 months after my 2nd operation (intramedullary 'nail' in broken Femur) and I have never been so bored in my life. Now I don't drive but I have to put up with exhaust fumes when on my bike/trike or walking (well Hobbling) in town. I'd cheerfully ban Cars and trucks tomorrow along with aeroplanes and shipping (back to Sail and horses) after all we coped for thousands of years without them

That is a false equivalence, since no matter what you think of them, cars and trucks are extremely useful to most people, while smoking is always just for pleasure.

 

[Webbo2]

while smoking is always just for pleasure.

Or death.

 

[raleighnut]

That has become more and more true for a lot of people in recent years, and is probably far more significant in pub closures than the smoking ban.

The reason beer has become more expensive is that pubs are empty for most of the week, it's a vicious circle. Since the smoking ban pubs have diversified into family friendly food venues or 'sports bars' I for one don't want to go into somewhere full of kids or with TV sets on every wall.
My idea of the perfect pub was a 'spit and sawdust' place with Cask ales, a couple of groups of people playing dominoes/darts/cards decent music on the jukebox/music system and ashtrays/beermats on every table. I spent most of my free time in pubs like that up until the late 90's when the partial and then full smoking regs came in.
Now in order to cover costs there is a menu on every table for overpriced frozen/reheated crap and beer is over a fiver a pint.

 

[tyred]

I doubt the smoking ban has very much to do with pubs closing. Only about 18% of the population smoke nowadays anyway.

I welcomed the smoking ban even though I smoked heavily at that time, because I never liked being in a smoke-filled room even as a smoker. It's horrible. I only really liked smoking outside.

The smoking ban was a Godsend for people like my Dad who is severely asthmatic and smokey atmospheres cause him all sorts of problems. Of course smokers never care about anyone else.