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Heltor Chasca

Out-riding the Black Dog
This morning I was returning from grocery shopping in my pickup with my 8YOD. I noticed a local character behaving strangely. He is an elderly Jehovah’s Witness door knocker. He was staggering and then leant up against a stone wall. I pulled over and then saw he was bleeding heavily from two wounds in his head and one eye was blood shot.

I bunged him into the back of my truck out of the wind and got my first aid kit out. The wound on his nose was down to the bone with flappy flesh either side and his forehead looked depressed. He told me he was going to faint and became unconscious for a short while. I was left bear hugging him.

A local floating postie pulled over to help and rung 999. The old man was adamant he wasn’t getting paramedic help. We twisted the story a bit and said the postie’s boss was coming up to give him a lift back to his church car park. In actual fact we were waiting for the ambulance. When it arrived the old man went nuts. But such is life these days, the paramedics are trained to deal with this reaction and soon he was seated and getting a full check up before being taken to A&E.

I had put my hazard lights on so my battery went flat and I had to walk with a week’s shopping and my 8YOD all the way home. My arms nearly fell off. I walked back after lunch with a neighbour’s battery pack which turned out to be too weak to start my truck so had to walk all the way home again. I returned later with a neighbour who jump started my vehicle.

Turns out this fellow had tripped up the kerb which is only 3”. (Save your helmet jokes for another time) And although I think he had only just fallen over, nobody stopped at all for him except for the postie. I was with this chap for quite a while and even then nobody asked if they could help. Even all the curtain twitching occupants of the houses we were sat outside for ages. It did look like I had driven into him at one stage. I dispair of society these days.

Good to get that off my chest. Thanks.
 

Welsh wheels

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Location
South Wales
This morning I was returning from grocery shopping in my pickup with my 8YOD. I noticed a local character behaving strangely. He is an elderly Jehovah’s Witness door knocker. He was staggering and then leant up against a stone wall. I pulled over and then saw he was bleeding heavily from two wounds in his head and one eye was blood shot.

I bunged him into the back of my truck out of the wind and got my first aid kit out. The wound on his nose was down to the bone with flappy flesh either side and his forehead looked depressed. He told me he was going to faint and became unconscious for a short while. I was left bear hugging him.

A local floating postie pulled over to help and rung 999. The old man was adamant he wasn’t getting paramedic help. We twisted the story a bit and said the postie’s boss was coming up to give him a lift back to his church car park. In actual fact we were waiting for the ambulance. When it arrived the old man went nuts. But such is life these days, the paramedics are trained to deal with this reaction and soon he was seated and getting a full check up before being taken to A&E.

I had put my hazard lights on so my battery went flat and I had to walk with a week’s shopping and my 8YOD all the way home. My arms nearly fell off. I walked back after lunch with a neighbour’s battery pack which turned out to be too weak to start my truck so had to walk all the way home again. I returned later with a neighbour who jump started my vehicle.

Turns out this fellow had tripped up the kerb which is only 3”. (Save your helmet jokes for another time) And although I think he had only just fallen over, nobody stopped at all for him except for the postie. I was with this chap for quite a while and even then nobody asked if they could help. Even all the curtain twitching occupants of the houses we were sat outside for ages. It did look like I had driven into him at one stage. I dispair of society these days.

Good to get that off my chest. Thanks.
Well done for helping him
 
Thanks I think ;) Got the feeling I hindered rather than helped. I am fiercely independent too which can be a foible sometimes.
You realise Witnesses have issues with some of modern medicine? That was probably why he was resistant. You did the right thing. They'll patch him up, and not force any treatment on him he does not want.

Good on you for helping out.

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Heltor Chasca

Heltor Chasca

Out-riding the Black Dog
You realise Witnesses have issues with some of modern medicine? That was probably why he was resistant. You did the right thing. They'll patch him up, and not force any treatment on him he does not want.

Good on you for helping out.

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Thank you, that’s good to know. You live and learn. Not surprised his belief system is against modern medicine.
 

Tommy2

Über Member
Location
Harrogate
Someone at work was telling me a lady fell over in the road a couple of weeks back and cars were beeping and shouting as they drove around her!!!!! Not one person stopped to help until my colleague did and then other pros started coming over, too little too late though.
 

TVC

Guest
You realise Witnesses have issues with some of modern medicine? That was probably why he was resistant. You did the right thing. They'll patch him up, and not force any treatment on him he does not want.

Good on you for helping out.

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Or it could be a brain injury, a possible symptom of an altered mental state is to resist assistance. The red cross taught me to always get a paramedic when there is a suspected head injury, no matter what the patient says.

Edit: Remiss of me to forget to say, well done @Heltor Chasca for stepping up.
 
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presta

Legendary Member
The research into helping behaviour done by Darley and Latane in the 1960s might be of interest. Their work was done after an infamous incident in which witnesses watched a woman being raped and murdered without calling the police.

It might sound bizarre, but their research showed that whilst the probability of any individual witness intervening to help is 85% if alone, this figure drops to just 31% when there are four or more others. It also showed that if no one acts within the first three minutes, it’s unlikely that anyone will. It also applies to helping yourself: people will leave a building they believe to be on fire if they're alone, but if there are others ignoring the danger they will ignore it too.

D&L identified five key stages involved in helping behaviour:

You must notice the incident.
You must interpret the incident as one where help is required.
You must assume personal responsibility.
You must decide what action to take.
You must act.

The second is undermined when you just perceive the incident as innocent behaviour.

The third is undermined when there is more than one witness.

The fourth: D&L found that their subjects were scared, sweaty, and trembling afterwards, and unable to give a coherent account of their actions. They had been paralysed by indecision, and were not just apathetic as had been assumed.

Subsequently, research by Arthur Beaman showed that people who have been educated in D&L’s five steps are twice as likely to help in an emergency as people who haven’t.
 
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Heltor Chasca

Heltor Chasca

Out-riding the Black Dog
Do you know what you've done? You've only endangered an innocent ambulance crew by sending them off with a zombie :laugh:

Seriously though, top marks for doing the right thing while lesser characters stood by and watched.

Yes and as my (very dark hearted) 8YOD pointed out: He doesn’t need to buy a Helloween mask. Mouth of evil babes.
 
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