So sick of this roundabout

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MessenJah

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Sorry if you've seen this on another forum already but I am really angry. I didn't really have time to get angry/upset etc. at the time. I was just happy to still be upright on two wheels, thankful that I was switched on and alert enough to realise what might happen and avoid a potentially lethal situation. I pushed it to the back of my mind and carried on working, but now I can't stop thinking about it.

Anyway - I got knocked off on this roundabout last week, by some idiot who was going to fast and didn't stop and give way. Exactly the same thing happened today except with a HGV but I managed to avoid going under it by a small margin. Here's where it happened:

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1. I'm waiting at the junction at the bottom of the picture. Wearing a white jersey for visibility (in broad daylight).

2. Nothing coming from my right, so I go onto the roundabout, straight ahead.

3. Halfway across the roundabout I see traffic coming from my left, too fast as ALWAYS, so I keep my eyes on it as always EVEN THOUGH I SHOULDN'T HAVE TO. But I know what these self-gratification artists are like, so my eyes are on them.

4. Lorry number one sees me too late, stops too late, way ahead of the line. Scary, but OK. But I sense there's a lorry coming fast in the lane next to him and slightly behind him, even though I can't see it (and whoever's driving it can't see me because lorry 1 is blocking its view).

5. I spot lorry 2 and instead of going straight ahead like I should have been able to, I swerve to the right ONLY JUST avoiding being splatted by this STUPID MOTHERF**** who thinks it's OK to drive a HGV right onto a roundabout at 30mph without being able to see if there's anything coming from his right. What a stupid ****ing *****.

6. He slams on the brakes when he finally sees me. He says something like "Jesus Christ", in a tone of voice that suggests that it's my fault for being there in the first place. NO ***ING APOLOGY FOR FAILING TO GIVE WAY! AND ALMOST KILLING ME! If I had gone straight on as planned instead of pre-emptively swerving to the right, I wouldn't be writing this - I would have been underneath the lorry and judging by his speed I'm pretty sure that I would be dead now.

7. To add insult to (almost) injury, he carries on going forwards instead of stopping and letting me go ahead, which blocks my path and forces me to go all the way around the roundabout to get back to where I was supposed to be going. I call him a '****ing tosser' and carry on towards my pick up point.

I felt pretty good about myself afterwards, that I was able to see this coming, and that I was alert enough to avoid it. It's only now that I've had time to think about it that I'm starting to feel like you feel when you've narrowly avoided death. The kind of feeling that makes you put your head in your hands, and wonder why you keep riding a bike, and wonder if you're still going to be alive this time tomorrow.

I feel really ****ing grim now. I keep having visions of myself underneath that truck, skin burst, flesh and blood everywhere. Still alive, screaming, or head burst open, skull contents everywhere.

Hopefully I'll be in Jamaica in two days time If I can get through tomorrow. That'll give me time to relax and ease my mind. Then... I think I'm handing my notice in. There's only so many times you can avoid getting killed by other people's moronic actions and I think my luck is running out.
 

Sh4rkyBloke

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Yikes - sounds like you avoided it well.

Complete f*cking tw*t might indeed be the way to describe the driver of the second HGV... as you say, approaching the r/b without knowing who/what is on there.

Muppet!!!! :smile::tongue:!
 
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MessenJah

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TBH I've had so many near misses lately I feel like my time is coming. I really don't wanna go on that plane for that reason. Though I suppose, statistically, I'm more likely to die at work.

F*ck couriering, it's too dangerous.
 

Tharg2007

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MessenJah said:
TBH I've had so many near misses lately I feel like my time is coming. I really don't wanna go on that plane for that reason. Though I suppose, statistically, I'm more likely to die at work.

F*ck couriering, it's too dangerous.

maybe it would be safer to do the couriering in an HGV, that eubank got one for a runaround didnt he?
 
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MessenJah

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These are the people who emply the **** who nearly ended me.

Might have to pay them a visit. Hide in the bushes with a baseball bat or something.

F*ck it I'm going to the off license to get some beer then I'm going to switch off and listen to some dub to chill out.

Might not even go to work tomorrow
 

John the Monkey

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MessenJah said:
I felt pretty good about myself afterwards, that I was able to see this coming, and that I was alert enough to avoid it.
You deserve to feel good about it - that was some good roadcraft by the sounds of it.
 

Baggy

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MessenJah said:
TBH I've had so many near misses lately I feel like my time is coming. I really don't wanna go on that plane for that reason. Though I suppose, statistically, I'm more likely to die at work.

F*ck couriering, it's too dangerous.
That was a nasty near miss, well done on anticipating.

My older brother was a courier for 9 years, and said he felt as if he had a guardian angel on his shoulder to get through that length of time without any major injuries. One day he felt as if his luck was going to run out, and he gave it up shortly after...the enjoyment had gone.
 

Jake

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ps regarding the actual incident, sounds terible and you were real lucky to be with us writing the posts. is therre a way around the round about, a different route?
 

Nigeyy

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I have to say I don't always cycle on certain roundabouts -call me a wimp, but I just figure the risk/reward isn't worth it. I know as a cyclist I am a road user, but frankly, that really doesn't matter when someone runs over you.

Is it time to walk around this roundabout rather than ride it? (assuming it can be walked more safely that is). I know I might get some stick for this suggestion, but hey, it's your personal safety -and this is certainly not a reflection on you (sounds like you did a great job of avoidance BTW), but on the road users at this roundabout.
 

yenrod

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>I got knocked off on this roundabout

Quite obvious - its wide open on the entry to it on most sides from what I can see.

Traffic management: lines etc...
 
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MessenJah

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Nigeyy said:
I have to say I don't always cycle on certain roundabouts -call me a wimp, but I just figure the risk/reward isn't worth it. I know as a cyclist I am a road user, but frankly, that really doesn't matter when someone runs over you.

Is it time to walk around this roundabout rather than ride it? (assuming it can be walked more safely that is). I know I might get some stick for this suggestion, but hey, it's your personal safety -and this is certainly not a reflection on you (sounds like you did a great job of avoidance BTW), but on the road users at this roundabout.
funnily enough, fellow motorcycle courier said the same thing last week after I got knocked off on the same roundabout. I said no, I'm too stubborn, and I have a right to use it, why should I give up that right becuase of other people, I'm not gonna let them force me off the road, etc.

But after today I think I'll reconsider.
 
Sounds like you done well there in a very awkward situation. Is it one of those rubbish rbts where a dual carriageway just continues straight through with little or no deflection encouraging stupid people to go fast? ie the road going bottom left to top right.
 

Origamist

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MessenJah said:
funnily enough, fellow motorcycle courier said the same thing last week after I got knocked off on the same roundabout. I said no, I'm too stubborn, and I have a right to use it, why should I give up that right becuase of other people, I'm not gonna let them force me off the road, etc.

But after today I think I'll reconsider.

There's nothing wrong with altering your route to avoid RaBs, poorly designed junctions, poor road surfaces etc, if you can find a more accommodating route. I do.
 
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