Stupid Sign

[flat-pack]

I pass through this 'subway' regularly I just wonder who thought a] the sign was necessary and b] who would comply ? It's only about 15 feet from one end to other.........

You can just see the sign to the left about 1/4 way up.

And why no bin for law abiders ?

Graham

 

[PBancroft]

Someone probably got told to put up the signs in all council-owned covered areas. That someone probably thought it was easier to just do it than to argue the toss.

 

[downfader]

I'm sure the person putting it up thought they could be dealing with more pressing engagements. Bet that was put there as teens smoke there

I hate smoking and the smell, but I think these new laws are absolutely rediculous. I dont know anyone who has given up as a result. Weirdly most of the pubs and restaurants that allowed smoking have started closing around here too. Their customers wont go as they cant smoke.

 

[Tynan]

Because it's got three sides

No smoking inside football stands either because it's 'an enclosed structure'

 

[col]

I can see the point, I mean the complaints from non smokers effected would be terrible.

 

[snakehips]

Presumably it is still permissible to burm hydrocarbons in there !

Snakehips Bikes

 

[Bollo]

The underpasses in sunny Basingstoke all have these signs. Anyone seen a 'crackdown' by the poleese yet?

 

[skrx]

I hate smoking and the smell, but I think these new laws are absolutely rediculous. I dont know anyone who has given up as a result. Weirdly most of the pubs and restaurants that allowed smoking have started closing around here too. Their customers wont go as they cant smoke.

The laws weren't to encourage people to give up. They were to protect people working in a smoky environment, mostly bar and restaurant staff.

(I hate smoking and the smell, so I think it's wonderful that I can now go to a bar/restaurant/nightclub and not feel ill.)

 

[PBancroft]

The laws weren't to encourage people to give up. They were to protect people working in a smoky environment, mostly bar and restaurant staff.

(I hate smoking and the smell, so I think it's wonderful that I can now go to a bar/restaurant/nightclub and not feel ill.)

I agree. I remember going out for a meal just before the ban came in...

The restaurant was packed, and we were a table of eight non-smokers. Behind us was another large group, and the only smoker on that table was thoughtfully holding her cigarette behind her and away from her friends... and directly over my food.

All too often in my experience smokers seem to forget that other people might not appreciate the smell. I go swimming every sunday - now that the smokers can't smoke inside the leisure centre they all congregate in the doorway instead, making everyone coming into the centre have to walk through a putrid cloud.

Same thing at train stations. I've lost track of the number of times at an otherwise empty station someone has come and sat at the same bench as me and lit up. Thanks for that, cock.

I don't care if people give up or not, but out of sight out of mind. And off my damn clothes.

Anyone got a stepladder? I need to get off this high horse...

 

[Bman]

The laws weren't to encourage people to give up. They were to protect people working in a smoky environment, mostly bar and restaurant staff.

(I hate smoking and the smell, so I think it's wonderful that I can now go to a bar/restaurant/nightclub and not feel ill.)

Thats what they like you to think. But they didnt need to ban smoking in all enclosed areas... just ones where people have to work.

for instance, there could be a small enclosed room in a pub where smokers have to clean up their own glasses...

Why did they have to remove half of the glass from smoking shelters too!? no-one works in a smoking shelter! Why not just make the smokers emplty the ashtrays themselves?

Nah, they can get wet/cold.

Its an anti-smoking law not a pro-employee health measure, whatever they try and make you believe.

Im personally waiting for a smoker to get ill or die due to insufficient shelter, then sue the government. Dont we have the right to stay dry when we have a quick smoke (in a designated area)!?

Or maybe someone can proove that passive breathing of car exaust is more harmful than working in a smokey pub.

Edit : I kind of agree with you there Kaipaith there is no excuse for inconciderate smokers. Even as a smoker. I personally hate smoke while im eating. It also used to annoy me when someone came and sat next to me and sparked up.

But still, the blanket ban is a bit much.

 

[thomas]

But still, the blanket ban is a bit much.

Nah it's good! It's disgusting going out and having to put up with smoking. I don't for the reasons behind it, but glad that I can go out and it's semi-smoke free. I'm too young to notice the benefits in clubs and things, but when in Prague, one of the clubs there allowed smoking inside - it was a horrible experience. But in another bar, their air conditioning was so powerful that I couldn't smell the smoke from the person next to me - it was fantastic.

 

[gavintc]

I do not have a link, but it was reported on the TV news recently that more people in Scotland have stopped smoking since the ban and that the incidence of smoking related illnesses has fallen.

 

[Bman]

We will have to agree to disagree on that one then Thomas

My view is that we should be allowed the choice, but not at the expense of others.

Presumably you also believe that outdoor smoking shelters should have 50% of the windows removed (basiaclly making it no longer a "shelter")? Who is that protecting?

Where is my right to ride to work without choking on poorly maintained car exausts?

I seriously notice the difference in my stamina when I'm riding to work on a weekday, compared to today, a sunday.

 

[PBancroft]

Presumably you also believe that outdoor smoking shelters should have 50% of the windows removed (basiaclly making it no longer a "shelter")? Who is that protecting?

I seem to recall that the thinking behind this was that non-smokers should be free to use the same facilities as smokers, therefore not just protecting workers but other customers - i.e., in decent weather folk aren't forced in sit inside but can make use of the garden facilities too.

That was my understanding anyway.

 

[Bman]

Maybe I missunderstand. Why would a non-smoker want to go outside and spend time in a smoking shelter?

Im actually talking from experiance. At my old workplace, it had been against company rules to smoke within the building for years. They supplied a small bus-shelter type smoking shelter in the carpark (no seating, just enough to fit 5 people, standing). After the new laws were passed, this smoking shelter had to have half the windows removed, to comply with the 50% rule. Since then the smokers got wet whenever there was a light wind and rain.

Anyway. Can I borrow that stepladder after you