Surosa Toledo - parts advice sought

[Lien Sdrawde]

Having plumped for the Surosa Toledo - and having no experience whatsoever on parts to upgrade, and as each one is custom built... and I have another 500 quid on top of the basic price, what would you suggest I spend it on?

105 sets and carbon seat posts seem popular, but all help would (once again) be appreciated.

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[Glover Fan]

Personally wouldn't bother spanking £500 on 105. Just upgrade those parts as the Tiagra parts wear out (that's what i'd do).

My first thought would be wheels. But to be honest, i'd check that you couldn't get a wheelset cheaper somewhere else before going through the "builder".

 

[GrumpyGregry]

some food for thought

Pedals
Ti railed brooks saddle.
Brooks leather bar tape
Tubus Fly rack
pair of nice lezyne cages
leyzne road pump
conti gatorskin hardshell tyres

and I'd go Campag Triple over Shimano

but then you'd be building my Toledo

 

[Lien Sdrawde]

Thanks chaps. The triple is a definate - though why Campag over Shimano? And is Tiagra the model below 105?

As I dont know much about the wheels at all, the guys in the shop said (I think) that these wheels were an upgrade on the lower spec model and would suit me well - they would take a 25mm tyre better (Gatorskins look a definate) and help carry my current bulk around a bit better.

I'm prepared to give the suppled saddle a try, only on the reckoning they would put a reasonable saddle on a bike designed for longer distances.

Tubus fly rack gets god press - did you have to 'bend it a bit' to get it to fit?

I was considering keeping my spd pedals, but again, only as I dont know any different, or appreciate if anything could be a significant improvement.

Forgive the daft question, but is it just a weight issue between the lezyne cages and my current ?plastic ones?

Lots of questions - sorry. Thanks for helping. I'm very excited. Neil

 

[GrumpyGregry]

Thanks chaps. The triple is a definate - though why Campag over Shimano? And is Tiagra the model below 105?

I prefer the ergonomics of the Campag stuff over Shimano braking without shifting and all that. btw I've got cross top levers on mine for those OMG! in traffic moments.

As I dont know much about the wheels at all, the guys in the shop said (I think) that these wheels were an upgrade on the lower spec model and would suit me well - they would take a 25mm tyre better (Gatorskins look a definate) and help carry my current bulk around a bit better.

I'm on 28's, with tortec guards, and a shade under 100kg. If you get tortec guards ask the shop to fit a stainless steel top bracket, like this, for the rear one instead of the stock plastic one tortec supply. It is the only thing that has ever gone wrong on my Toledo in several 1000 km. Pain in the butt as on mine the rear brake nut unscrewed after the plasitc failed and the rear brake fell off! Several 10's of kms from my destination.

I'm prepared to give the suppled saddle a try, only on the reckoning they would put a reasonable saddle on a bike designed for longer distances.

Fair enough. Saddles are a personal preference anyway, and all my bikes have Brooks. I don't have a carbon post (see the comment about being 100kg) and the Ti rails definitely take out some of the road buzz transmitted via the alloy one..

Tubus fly rack gets god press - did you have to 'bend it a bit' to get it to fit?

Nope no bending. On mine iirc the largest frame they do, it needed one of the bent rack stays that Tubus make as an extra. It is only fixed at three points, one either drop out and on one of the seat stays. Solid as a rock. Even with two panniers and a rack bag.

I was considering keeping my spd pedals, but again, only as I dont know any different, or appreciate if anything could be a significant improvement.

As an inveterate mtb-er I'm addicted to spd's and only own one pair of proper shoes. Shimano PD-A420's on mine, better over longer distances than non-platform spuds.

Forgive the daft question, but is it just a weight issue between the lezyne cages and my current ?plastic ones?

Lots of questions - sorry. Thanks for helping. I'm very excited. Neil

Weight difference? Who cares. Lezyne stuff is just (plain) sex(y.)

 

[Lien Sdrawde]

Thanks for the great reply.

Sex thing now understood

I'm down to 94kg now

 

[GrumpyGregry]

This is the offset stay I used

 

[RoyGo3]

Hi Lien,

I'm waiting to pick up my new Tiagra specced Toledo (hopefully imminently!)

For what it's worth, if it's of any help. then I spent my remaining ££ upgrading to:-

Triple chainring
11-28 rear cassette
DT Swiss rims on Shimano 105 hubs
Shallow drop bars
25mm Continental Ultra Gatorskins
Pro Logo Kappa saddle (next one up from the basic)

Hope you're looking forward to your new arrival as much as I'm looking forward to mine!

 

[GrumpyGregry]

mine is better than yours.... cos its mine.

 

[Lien Sdrawde]

I'm going for my fitting this Thursday - then its a two week wait till I get it back.

What are these 'DT Swiss rims' as ive not come across anything like that?

Also, why 11-28 rather than the 12-25 it comes with - sorry if that seems an ignorant question, I can see that its to do with the gearing, but is it that you've had that set up previously and loved it or what?

And, why shallow drop bars - not come across that either?

Ta for the help fellas. It means a lot. Neil

 

[RoyGo3]

I wanted to go for higher specced wheels and wanted them to be on Sh105 hubs. When I mentioned this in the shop I was recommended the DT Swiss rims. I'd heard before that they're good quality and the 32 spoke options are pretty much bombproof so was happy to go for them.

The 11-28 cassette is just what I'm used to - the big 28 comes in handy only very very occassionally, but when it does I'm grateful for it!

The shallow drops are basically drop handlebars but with a shallower curve - i.e. so you don't have to reach down as far. It's a new thing for me, but thought I'd try them. I favour a more upright riding position most of the time so the shallower drops will still give me the variety of changing hand positions, but without having to stretch down as far.

It's all horses for courses, but if you're getting a custom build then you may as well take advantage of the extra choices that are available to you.

Good luck with the fitting, and don't be afraid to ask for advice on anything while you're there - they're really helpful.

Roy

 

[Lien Sdrawde]

Got to be patient - still not managed to complete the bike as they cant get hold of any of the 105 groupsets I plumped for - hopefully not long now.