Tailgating lorries - I dont want to be another statistic!

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GrasB

Veteran
Location
Nr Cambridge
You have some power man, must be nice.
Nice to have but takes a degree of sadomasochism to get... In some ways it's not a muscular barrier but rather a pain tolerance one.
 

beastie

Guru
Location
penrith
I do tend to speed up if someone is behind me anyway. I normally do it through pinch points just to show the driver that I dont intend to keep them behind any longer than is necessary. I tends to work and I often get thanked.
Tailgating still scares the jelly out of me though. Purely for the fact that if I have to stop suddenly, I will have nowhere to go. If someone pulls out infront of me, I can often swerve or stop abruptly.

Thats the thing actually, bike brakes are a hell of a lot better than car brakes at normal speeds. At 20mph, it takes me about 3m to emergency stop. In a car, you have the reaction time which is longer than that anyway.

The reaction time of any individual is gonna be the same on a bike, in a car etc. Modern car brakes are pretty good, and with good tyres then the stopping power is far better than any bike.
 

kedab

Veteran
Location
nr cambridge
I do the hand behind the back & thumbs up thing too :thumbsup: 40 miles of riding yesterday and only one close pass from a hgv on a very busy a10 - the crosswind wasn't helping me and as he pushed the air past me, it turned my front wheel left, then, as I caught his slipstream, it pulled the wheel right...a bit hairy but for 2 hours on the bike, that was the only head shake I had cause to make...got pretty sunburnt though - the tan lines a crisp and sharp, I follow the rules :rolleyes:
 

Davidsw8

Senior Member
Location
London
Had a lorry right up me round a few corners this morning, he tried to overtake me but it was too narrow and there was no opportunity for me to pull over safely. Thankfully, a Royal Mail van was stopped and partially blocking the road as it couldn't proceed fully on the road that crossed ours so I cycled behind it and up the street, Mr Van Man was stuck having to wait till the Royal Mail van was able to move. That's appalling to intimidate someone like that though, if I'd hit a pothole (and there are TONS round here), I'd have been under his front wheels.
 

jarlrmai

Veteran
Wasn't happy about this



He's close behind me and getting closer I feel I have to go into the bus stop for safety.
 

danjanoob

Active Member
Location
Romford
[QUOTE 2420898, member: 45"]Slow down, and keep slowing until the driver backs off.[/quote]

This. I do exactly this in my car too with numpties tailgating me. They soon get it, normally around the 10mph mark. Works even better on a bike.
 
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pulling over means slowing significantly with a huge lorry right behind you. It's pretty lose/lose, the best drivers back off and often I will pull over for them if it is safe, as I know they have issues with gears and momentum, but when its tailgating you you just have to keep going sometimes.


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKec2BH8uGI
 

Slaav

Guru
Wasn't happy about this



He's close behind me and getting closer I feel I have to go into the bus stop for safety.


Now I would have acknowledged him behind me, with a wave or similar..... then pointed and indicated to bus stop to say - off you go - and he would have got the right gear and passed safely. I don't even think it was that close I am afraid!

Sorry
 

jarlrmai

Veteran
thanks I require your validation..

The guy bought his truck too close to me, I am in front, if I let him pass that is up to me, I didn't want him to pass as I was trying to get up to speed up hill into a headwind after the lights I could also see cars in the other lane, last thing I want is an aborted pass by a truck.

What wasn't close, the pass? Yeah the pass isn't the problem mainly 'cos I pulled over and by the time he's mostly past me he's just into the other lane. My issue was the truck was too close behind me and moving closer. Hence the tailgating which is the reason I posted it in this thread.

Hate posting videos here, to be honest you can't get a sense of what it felt like at the time from them, things are a little different when you are there and hear the wagon behind you getting closer and see the shadow looming up.
 

GrasB

Veteran
Location
Nr Cambridge
The guy bought his truck too close to me, I am in front, if I let him pass that is up to me, I didn't want him to pass ... My issue was the truck was too close behind me and moving closer. Hence the tailgating which is the reason I posted it in this thread.
People are talking about letting a lorry pass but how do you do that when they're too close? Slowing down works but it's a risk increasing strategy. In a car you've got a lot of protection as the impact speed won't be high but on a s bike it involves a high risk because if the driver behind doesn't respond you've not got any protection against an impact. A lorry carries more more than enough momentum at 5mph to simply roll over the top of a person on a bike, it's also heavy enough to seriously injure or even kill you.

The italic section, it's entirely the responsibility of the overtaking driver to maintain a proper gap to the vehicle in front. This includes before, during & after the overtake. If the driver made jarlrmai feel intimidated by his presence this driver failed on a safe overtake before the manoeuvre had even started. Why? By putting someone under pressure you're increasing the risk of irrational behaviour which makes subsequent manoeuvres much more risky.

This goes back to gaz's red light jump. It's easy to post-incident say there was ways out, however the fact gas felt pressed enough to jump the light meant he was under metal pressure & more likely to make a miss-judgment of distance/speed. Under these situations it's generally safer to commit to the jump in marginal situations, as it requires the fewest critical judgments to be made.
 
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