Texting and dialling whilst driving ............ frightening

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As Easy As Riding A Bike

Well-Known Member
I'm just interested in where people draw the line. What pieces of law breaking can just be 'let go', which need us to vocally point out?


Okay, that's fine. We can have a discussion about that.


But your original assertion was that it was 'abuse' to tell someone to get off their phone. Then, when this was challenged, you proceeded to suggest that only those who "yell down every single piece of law breaking, all the time, no matter what the context" can legitimately disagree with your opinion that it is, indeed, 'abuse' to tell someone to get off the phone.


This - charitably - is a non-sequitur.


Do you still think that?
 

Chutzpah

Über Member
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Somerset, UK


Okay, that's fine. We can have a discussion about that.

But your original assertion was that it was 'abuse' to tell someone to get off their phone. Then, when this was challenged, you proceeded to suggest that only those who "yell down every single piece of law breaking, all the time, no matter what the context" can legitimately disagree with your opinion that it is, indeed, 'abuse' to tell someone to get off the phone.

This - charitably - is a non-sequitur.

Do you still think that?

My original assertion wasn't that it was abuse - that's plain quote mining. Yes I mention abuse in my original post, but I clarified it in the follow up post. I was off-handedly referring anecdotally to the videos I've seen where people have literally yelled abuse at drivers, but stated that they didn't report it.

It was probably poorly put originally but it was 11:30pm at night
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It's been insinuated that I don't think it's a big deal, and that I've been caught doing it myself (both of which I've rebuked).

I do think it's a big deal. But I still stand by my assertion that if someone, in their bubble of a world view, think it's OK to use their phone whilst driving, they will not be convinced whilst driving along by a stranger.

If you want to film it to make a point, fair play, but report it too, because car drivers aren't going on YouTube to watch clips of themselves using mobile phones.
 

Chutzpah

Über Member
Location
Somerset, UK
As an aside, should we not also be trying to convince the so-called lobby groups (CTC, British Cycling etc.) to publicise the problem of drivers on mobiles?

Because I do agree that many police seem to think that merely gesticulating at drivers to put their phone down is enough.
 

marmalade400

New Member
But I still stand by my assertion that if someone, in their bubble of a world view, think it's OK to use their phone whilst driving, they will not be convinced whilst driving along by a stranger.

I don't know, if it gets to the point where they are getting hassled by strangers several times a day for using their phone then I think it would sink in. They wouldn't want to use the phone while driving if almost every time they did it they got a rap on their window and some red faced cyclist or indignant pedestrian shouting at them.

The solution is for more people to 'abuse' drivers that use their phones not for everyone to leave them to it.
 

Chutzpah

Über Member
Location
Somerset, UK
Possibly... I think the big question is how you make it as socially unacceptable as other bits of lawbreaking. After all, how did they convince everyone to wear seatbelts?
 

summerdays

Cycling in the sun
Location
Bristol
Possibly... I think the big question is how you make it as socially unacceptable as other bits of lawbreaking. After all, how did they convince everyone to wear seatbelts?

They haven't convinced everyone yet of that one ... drives me mad especially when it's children in the back completely unrestrained. I know that we grew up doing that but we've managed to make that change though it did take a while to get completely in that habit naturally.
 

sheddy

Legendary Member
Location
Suffolk
The introduction of the seatbelt law was assisted by a big TV campaign. Why can't govt have a similar campaign for the phonewits ?
 
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