That's a lot to read...

[mjr]

Worth pointing out busway refers to the guided bit the bus goes down, not the parallel track on which you walk / cycle.

Maybe, but only to council wonks. The general public call the whole thing the busway. The sign is confusing rubbish which will cause arguments in several ways and I really hope local campaigners Camcycle have some good legal help to slap Cambs Co Co silly!

 

[Drago]

I like the "please do not graffiti the bus way" bit.

If only deterring criminals were that easy "please do not rob this post office!"- We wouldn't need a criminal justice system any more.

An utter waste of time and resources. Whoever came up with this nonsense of a sign, and the person who then signed off on it, clearly dknt have any real work to do instead so the local authority could save two salaries right there.

 

[mjr]

Is that true? Is it not legally compliant?

Yes and no. It wouldn't be a legal sign on a highway, but the piddling small print at the bottom claims that the busway is a permissive path. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of the busway is actually a Bridleway for cycling and only a permissive route for buses. If someone can tell me where exactly that sign is, I'll tell you whether I think it's permissive path or not.

and anyway - genuine question - can you have a speed limit for bikes
most "analogue bikes" don't have a speedometer

On a permissive path, the landowner could set whatever silly rules they like. The main enforcement action they could take is to ask you to leave by the shortest route and try to stop your trespassing. I don't think they could fine you or much else.

On a bridleway or other highway, there is no law enabling a speed limit for bikes, whether or not they have a speedometer. The speedometer thing is often mentioned but it's a red herring. It might have once helped convince MPs not to pass a speed limit law for pedal cycles, or that it would be unreasonable, but it's not itself any obstacle to such a law.

 

[Gwylan]

I like the "please do not graffiti the bus way" bit.

If only deterring criminals were that easy "please do not rob this post office!"- We wouldn't need a criminal justice system any more.

An utter waste of time and resources. Whoever came up with this nonsense of a sign, and the person who then signed off on it, clearly dknt have any real work to do instead so the local authority could save two salaries right there.

All bleedin' heart, lefty, tosh.

The people who break laws generally don't read signs or think the signs apply to them.

 

[Drago]

Indeed. They dont care about being asked nicely or getting a warning letter. The only think that upsets them is the ratchet sound Hyatt handcuffs make when theyre slipped on.

 

[mjr]

All bleedin' heart, lefty, tosh.

I think you'll find it liberal tosh in Cambs Co Co at the moment. The apocalypse will probably come before the lefties take control at New Shire Hall.

 

[Alien8]

It wouldn't be a legal sign on a highway, but the piddling small print at the bottom claims that the busway is a permissive path. I'm pretty sure that the vast majority of the busway is actually a Bridleway for cycling and only a permissive route for buses. If someone can tell me where exactly that sign is, I'll tell you whether I think it's permissive path or not.

Cambridgeshire County Council have already been out to put tape over the offending (factually incorrect) words on the signs.

Their safety plan going forward includes:

1. £6.5m to put fencing/ barriers along the entire length of the busway (~25km) to separate the maintenance track from the guided bus tracks.
2. £7m for flood mitigation works at three locations on the northern section.

The main thing that seems to be upsetting the locals is the loss of informal crossing points that have appeared over the last 14-years.

 

[Drago]

I think you'll find it liberal tosh in Cambs Co Co at the moment. The apocalypse will probably come before the lefties take control at New Shire Hall.

Its the same thing. The only difference is their leader has a personality.