US "Gas" prices
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DrSquirrel
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$1.25 extra @ 4 miles.
250 working days x 4 x 2 = 2000miles @ 20mpg (low for here, but probably not that low there) = 100 gallons = $125 a year
Even 5 miles @ 10mpg is 250 gallons = $312.50 a year...
Sorry mate - It's still cheaper to drive
Thought that might be per Litre but this from the article says otherwise "It's increased in price by about $1.20 a gallon since August, he says, driven by increased global demand, especially in China and India, where more and more people are driving cars.
250 working days x 4 x 2 = 2000miles @ 20mpg (low for here, but probably not that low there) = 100 gallons = $125 a year
Even 5 miles @ 10mpg is 250 gallons = $312.50 a year...
Sorry mate - It's still cheaper to drive
Thought that might be per Litre but this from the article says otherwise "It's increased in price by about $1.20 a gallon since August, he says, driven by increased global demand, especially in China and India, where more and more people are driving cars.
jnb
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$1.25 extra @ 4 miles.
250 working days x 4 x 2 = 2000miles @ 20mpg (low for here, but probably not that low there) = 100 gallons = $125 a year
Even 5 miles @ 10mpg is 250 gallons = $312.50 a year...
Sorry mate - It's still cheaper to drive
Thought that might be per Litre but this from the article says otherwise "It's increased in price by about $1.20 a gallon since August, he says, driven by increased global demand, especially in China and India, where more and more people are driving cars.
"increased" by $1.25. US prices are about $4 per us gallon. So petrol at 20mpg would be about 20c per mile, double that to allow for maintenance etc and it's about 40c a mile.
so his four mile journey would save 4 miles = $1.60
or over a year 4 x 2 x 250 ~ 2000 miles ~ $800
Yes I'd say its worth cycling
Beebo
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The table on the right makes interesting reading. The US tax take on Gas Petrol is minimal, the underlying price of the commodity is roughly the same.
Also of interest is the fact that Holland, France and Germany all pay more per ltr than the UK, despite what the red tops will have us believe.
Also of interest is the fact that Holland, France and Germany all pay more per ltr than the UK, despite what the red tops will have us believe.
DrSquirrel
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I am talking about the increase. And it was meant as a joke, 4 miles - might as well ride it.
Could probably just walk it!
Maintenence only counts at that value (imo) if you get rid of the car - which is very doubtful for Americans... taxes, insurance... services that are based on time etc. I like to take just the fuel as "worst case saving", to not butter something up better than it is.
$400 still isn't much a year to commute though
Could probably just walk it!
Maintenence only counts at that value (imo) if you get rid of the car - which is very doubtful for Americans... taxes, insurance... services that are based on time etc. I like to take just the fuel as "worst case saving", to not butter something up better than it is.
$400 still isn't much a year to commute though
I saw this before I left for college, and it irritates me to no end about how Americans get arsed about fuel prices, when they have no idea how bad it is in Europe. That fella in the Jag who earns minimum wage was complaining on fuel prices - buy a less thirsy car, idiot!
Either way, seeing more people cycle is always good, so I suppose it's a good thing people are at least considering it. It'd help the obesity endemic they have in America too.
Either way, seeing more people cycle is always good, so I suppose it's a good thing people are at least considering it. It'd help the obesity endemic they have in America too.
Moodyman
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It's all relative to one's own experiences. The Americans are hurting because historically their gas prices have been much lower than they are now.
It's like the Saudis complaining about the cost of water - yes - in Saudi Arabia oil is so plentiful and water to scarce, that drinking water is more expensive than petrol.
Not sure what you are paying in UK at the moment. But here in Naples, Petrol runs from Euro 1.60 - 1.65 and Diesel is around Euro 1.50. Looking at a currency converter that makes 1.44 GBP for the petrol and 1.31 for the diesel.
DrSquirrel
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Varies, around here its £1.37(9)
abo
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About the same, though reversed with diesel being more expensive than petrol purely through the way it is taxed...
abo
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Why add in the maintenance? He was happy to drive to work at the previous prices and therefore accepted the costs of running the car. His whinge is at the $1.25 a gallon increase so the poster's comment is still valid, plus he might have to buy a bike if he doesn't already have one.
But yeah, 4 miles each way isn't exactly a tough ride unless he lives and works in the Rockies or something
jnb
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I include maintenance as it represents the incremental cost of driving, i.e. it's the amount you need to allow for oil, tyres, bulbs, general wear and tear, milage related depreciation and all the other milage related costs. From my experience that is about the same as the petrol costs so as a very quick top of head estimate double your fuel costs and that's what you save by cycling (minus of course the depreciation, tyres, lights etc that you put on the bike)
DrSquirrel
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It's basically Reagan's fault on the tax front and more or less stayed there ever since (things might have taken a slightly different turn).
Basically the graph tells the story, the gas was less than $2 a gallon for a lot of the last decade. This itself was seen as unacceptably high by americans. It's just in their culture to complain about gas prices, the prices regularly get on the news almost akin to our weather forecasts and Americans tend to notice micro rises whereas brits don't. Brits tend to notice long sustained rises in prices about 3 or 4 times a decade and often their recollections are wrong.
