I always feel a bit ill after a ride as well. I'm guessing that you ride and then just stop when you're finished. Don't do this, you need to keep walking about until your heart rate returns to a more normal level. Do this and I guarantee that it'll make you feel better much quicker.
Very Scary Moment Last Night
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native son
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- Location
- Barnsley
Chances of surviving a cardiac arrest in the UK is less than 10 % . In some countries survival is approaching 50%.
This is due to 2 simple reasons. Firstly children are taught basic life support in school and its mandatory. And secondly they have many more public access defibrillators around.
There has been a massive campaign from the British heart foundation and the resuscitation Council to get essential life saving skills on the school curriculum. However just this week Michael Gove has chosen to ignore all the evidence and leave it out of the new curriculum. They have missed a great opportunity to equip our children with essential life saving skills. Maybe one day he or his family will be in need of Cpr. Will he wonder then why so few people know what to do. What can be more important to have on the curriculum.
This is due to 2 simple reasons. Firstly children are taught basic life support in school and its mandatory. And secondly they have many more public access defibrillators around.
There has been a massive campaign from the British heart foundation and the resuscitation Council to get essential life saving skills on the school curriculum. However just this week Michael Gove has chosen to ignore all the evidence and leave it out of the new curriculum. They have missed a great opportunity to equip our children with essential life saving skills. Maybe one day he or his family will be in need of Cpr. Will he wonder then why so few people know what to do. What can be more important to have on the curriculum.
Gravity Aided
Legendary Member
- Location
- Land of Lincoln
It should only take 5 or 6 hours total to teach CPR and Defibrillator. That's all the time it took for the initial course, and I also do a refresher every 2 years. A vital and useful skill. Should be refreshed every couple of years, as the recommendations for CPR seem to change about that often. It's also good for those of us with bad memory skills to have this refreshed in our minds. CPR can't hurt someone, even though you may break ribs, that person will be in a lot worse condition if you don't do it. People should be taught basic skills like these, as well as camping and survival skills. We always got such training in the Boy Scouts here in the States, but I also had a lot of tutelage from my Father. It saved my life one day.
Col5632
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- Location
- Cowdenbeath
Sounds like a pretty scary moment indeed, glad the guy made it though 
are you saying he was shocked 6 times in total??? i'm surprised he survived it. most automated defib machines will do no more than 3 times because each time the shock is increased. anything over 3 times starts to fry the heart! i was told on my first aid that you shouldnt shock someone more than 3 times before the paramedics arrive, and if it didn't work on the 3rd go, to just continue giving CPR until they get there.
2Loose
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- Location
- Loughborough, Leicestershire.
So glad that there was a defib & crew nearby. IIRC survival by CPR is about 8% compared to >80% with a Defib.
As Native Son said, they really need to be more commonly found.
As Native Son said, they really need to be more commonly found.
aces_up1504
Well-Known Member
Thats what i thought i heard the guys mention to the paramedic. He was certainly shocked a high number of times, two of which were by the paramedic.
I bumped into one of the leisure center staff who where present when it occured on saturday. Had a quick word with him. The guy is still in intensive care but doing "Ok".
well he's in the best place. you def stand more of a chance if someone gets a defib to you quickly. It's something like your chances reduce by 10% per minute the longer you wait for a defib. most dentists, doctors, supermarkets and offices have them and you can go in and ask if you ever need one. they are simple to use. Use CPR until someone gets the defib (don't give up even if you think they are a gonna) and then you place the pads on either side of the heart (as shown on the diagram) and then turn the machine on. The machine does it all. it monitors the heart and gives a shock only if its fibrilating. it will do it 3 times and the automated voice tells you when to continue CPR. you really cannot go wrong with them, because it will only shock if the heart needs it. so if you are ever in the position where you need to use one on someone, don't be shy. you are there only chance and you can't make it worse. Once the 3 shocks are up, continue with CPR until the paramedics arrive. don't give up.
one other thing they taught us is adonal breathing (i think that's how you spell it). This is the when the person is taking long, loud moaning deep breaths, approx 3 - 5 a minute. This should not be taken as breathing. it's the body's last ditch attempt at life and the person needs CPR/defib/ambulance.
and that's your first aid lesson of the day.
