TwickenhamCyclist
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Apologies if already covered but I have searched the forum for the video, title etc and found nothing so I guess no one else picked up on this one or thought it worthwhile posting
View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMphhd8QCwA&feature=player_embedded
On LBC (London based but national on digital?) this afternoon – Julia *I hate cyclists” Brewer discussed the above video.
To be fair I didn’t listen until the end, but it was a pretty ill informed debate with no one being able to define undertaking properly (or when it’s allowed), and Brewer herself sounded as clueless as ever.
As you can guess it turned into a cycle bashing session – we all deserve it/red light jumping pavement riding etc with brewer occasionally saying it’s not all cyclists but then loving all the anti cyclist ranters on air.
The consensus was that the cyclist was totally in the wrong and, although the police driver may have cut back in a little early, the cyclist totally deserved it for not being in the bus lane… and that the policeman was providing an escort so can really do as he pleases and basically that bikes should stay in the left at all times… as Julia kept on squawking “I mean, other than undertaking in the bus lane how else could he have got past the cyclist” (The option to wait until it was safe to overtake the bike was never considered)
My two pennith for what it’s worth: from the footage the cyclist possibly could have pulled back into the bus lane for 50 yards before coming back out to turn BUT I wasn’t there and don’t know what was behind – he was going a fair lick and, getting back into that right hand lane to turn right might have been more difficult (what with all those speeding land rovers) than staying in it, so sticking in primary in the outside lane for a few seconds might be the best thing to do there
BUT
Even if one assumes the cyclist was in the wrong lane / had made a mistake, that certainly looked like a punishment pass from a driver who should know better – a driver who should have been able to cope with a cyclist who, as he admits, was inconveniencing him. Instead we get an aggressive undertake (which I always assumed was allowed if a vehicle was signalling right as the cyclist claims to have been doing – the undertaking, not the aggressiveness) from a driver who should know better
Here’s the link to the LBC site where I’m sure the comments section is rivalling that of the Daily Mail: http://www.lbc.co.uk/watch-cyclist-anger-at-dangerous-police-driver-60839
View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMphhd8QCwA&feature=player_embedded
On LBC (London based but national on digital?) this afternoon – Julia *I hate cyclists” Brewer discussed the above video.
To be fair I didn’t listen until the end, but it was a pretty ill informed debate with no one being able to define undertaking properly (or when it’s allowed), and Brewer herself sounded as clueless as ever.
As you can guess it turned into a cycle bashing session – we all deserve it/red light jumping pavement riding etc with brewer occasionally saying it’s not all cyclists but then loving all the anti cyclist ranters on air.
The consensus was that the cyclist was totally in the wrong and, although the police driver may have cut back in a little early, the cyclist totally deserved it for not being in the bus lane… and that the policeman was providing an escort so can really do as he pleases and basically that bikes should stay in the left at all times… as Julia kept on squawking “I mean, other than undertaking in the bus lane how else could he have got past the cyclist” (The option to wait until it was safe to overtake the bike was never considered)
My two pennith for what it’s worth: from the footage the cyclist possibly could have pulled back into the bus lane for 50 yards before coming back out to turn BUT I wasn’t there and don’t know what was behind – he was going a fair lick and, getting back into that right hand lane to turn right might have been more difficult (what with all those speeding land rovers) than staying in it, so sticking in primary in the outside lane for a few seconds might be the best thing to do there
BUT
Even if one assumes the cyclist was in the wrong lane / had made a mistake, that certainly looked like a punishment pass from a driver who should know better – a driver who should have been able to cope with a cyclist who, as he admits, was inconveniencing him. Instead we get an aggressive undertake (which I always assumed was allowed if a vehicle was signalling right as the cyclist claims to have been doing – the undertaking, not the aggressiveness) from a driver who should know better
Here’s the link to the LBC site where I’m sure the comments section is rivalling that of the Daily Mail: http://www.lbc.co.uk/watch-cyclist-anger-at-dangerous-police-driver-60839
