What would you do?

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Poacher

Gravitationally challenged member
Location
Nottingham
i have a moral dilemma, which may surprise those of you who believe me to be devoid of morals.
I like old books, particularly illustrated ones, and despise the book-breakers who cut out old plates to frame and sell. Last Friday, at a local antiques fair, I spotted an old and unloved leather-bound book, in a sorry state with front cover detached, back cover loose, spine denuded, despite a later attempt at mending with a clumsy leather patch, and missing the title page. The stallholder didn't know what it was, and neither did I, except that it was a gazetteer. Entries for Stockton and Darlington made no mention of the railway, so I guessed it was earlier than about 1825. The map of the West Indies showed St Lucia as French, so probably before about 1815. Letter s in the text actually looked like an s rather than a mutant f, so probably after about 1790. (How's that for on the spot detective work?). The entry for Lincoln said "formerly called NICOL", which was news to me as a Lincolnshire lad, and was the deciding factor in buying it - what other nonsense was waiting to be found?
Some research has established it as a 3rd edition of John Walker's Universal Gazetteer, published in 1801 and not especially rare. Now for the dilemma. There are maps of Africa, North America, South America, Asia, England, Europe, France, Germany, India, Ireland, Scotland and Spain & Portugal. All of these are folded in three places to fit into the book, so of course they suffer damage every time they are looked at - the map of England is on the point of falling apart completely. Should I cut out and frame the maps to save them from further damage? This would destroy the integrity of the book, although that's already compromised by lacking the frontispiece of maps of the West and East hemispheres as well as the title page. Removing the maps would surely lower the value of the remaining pages. What should I do?



The book cost me the princely sum of £2 - I didn't haggle.
 

classic33

Leg End Member
What about using an adhesive plastic to hold the pages together?

Not sellotape, and applied to the back of the page.
 

Paulus

Started young, and still going.
Location
Barnet,
Could you not seek advice from a specialist bookbinding company, if any such person/firm exists these day to see if the book and it's pages are retrievable?
 

gbb

Squire
Location
Peterborough
There is a way to reinforce damaged pages /pictures but my observations are anecdotal based on what dad used to do.
He was an artist, framer and used to do a lot of commission work. Occasionally he got really poor condition illustrations / maps to frame possibly for the same reasons you're talking about. He'd mount them to new paper (type unknown) with adhesive (type unknown) and very very gently iron it all flat.
This is from vague memory, I do remember him saying 'You get one chance at it and have to be exraordinarily careful'. But it did work....if that's one alternative you're looking at.
 

Bazzer

Setting the controls for the heart of the sun.
I'd speak with a book restorer and then consider your decision. Like you, Mrs B and I despise book breakers, but it may be that the integrity of the book is so compromised that the costs of restoration not just override heart over wallet, but give it a damn good kicking on the way.
Also if the book has been so badly treated, there may be other issues, not immediately obvious, which are going to cause damage in the near future.
 

PeteXXX

Cake or ice cream? The choice is endless ...
Location
Hamtun
I have several early 1900’s books with lithographs of Cambridge, Bury St Edmunds and Ely, but they are in good condition, so I could never mutilate them.
If you can afford to get them professionally rebound, I’d go for it.
However, if it’s considered to be beyond repair, I’d think about framing individual prints.
 

Beebo

Firm and Fruity
Location
Hexleybeef
You bought it for £2, why the dilemma?
Unless it is a hidden gem worth thousands of pounds I would cut it up and display the maps, otherwise they will never be seen.
 
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Deleted member 26715

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Unless it is a hidden gem worth thousands of pounds I would cut it up and display the maps, otherwise they will never be seen.
I'm sort of with this, unless it's extremely rare which you say it's not, then there are other editions out there in better condition.
 

Globalti

Legendary Member
I'm with the breakers on this. If it's not rare, why waste money on it? You'll never manage a full restoration anyway.
 
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