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CharlieB

Junior Walker and the Allstars
I don't think this belongs in Commuting, since it's not about cycling…

Just suppose you saw a person regularly on your railway train commute, who never touched their Oyster card in or out in either direction.
What would go through your mnd?

Just asking…
 

buggi

Bird Saviour
Location
Solihull
[sup]that they worked there???[/sup]
 
Sorry, I don't get this. Why should a particular passenger have an oystercard or not have one? I certainly don't but then I don't live in London, and even if I did I wouldn't use public transport enough to make it pay its way.

So anyway, have you got any definite evidence of fare-dodging going on here? Or are you just snooping?
 
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CharlieB

CharlieB

Junior Walker and the Allstars
Thank you, people. I deliberately didn't tell the full story, because I was looking for some impartial answers.
Not snooping or anything (661Pete), but to be honest a possibility of fare dodging had obviously crossed my mind as I'd just noticed this for a few months now.

When he squeezed through a gate close behind me (and Brompton) to get through because the manual gate wasn't open for a change last night I thought I'd look for some other answers.

Because I hate fare dodging and the fact that we have to contribute to London Underground's cost of combatting it on top of the substantial cost of public transport.
 

Night Train

Maker of Things
There were a number of texts and emails to the Metro paper about people who hide their Oyster card in their glove and then pass through the barriers with just a 'Jedi' wave of the hand.
 

Sh4rkyBloke

Jaffa Cake monster
Location
Manchester, UK
Thank you, people. I deliberately didn't tell the full story, because I was looking for some impartial answers.
Not snooping or anything (661Pete), but to be honest a possibility of fare dodging had obviously crossed my mind as I'd just noticed this for a few months now.

When he squeezed through a gate close behind me (and Brompton) to get through because the manual gate wasn't open for a change last night I thought I'd look for some other answers.

Because I hate fare dodging and the fact that we have to contribute to London Underground's cost of combatting it on top of the substantial cost of public transport.

Sounds like simple fare dodging. I'd be inclined to alert staff there to his antics so they can approach to ascertain whether 'tis the case or not.
 

benb

Evidence based cyclist
Location
Epsom
I always wanted to carefully take the oyster card apart and embed the chip under my skin.
Or in a watch strap, whichever was easier.
 
Not snooping or anything (661Pete), but to be honest a possibility of fare dodging had obviously crossed my mind as I'd just noticed this for a few months now.
Ah, perhaps I shouldn't have used that word. TBH I feel pretty much the same about fare dodging. Or certainly used to, in the days when I used to go by train a lot.

Which brings to mind a tale. This was from many years ago when fares and ticketing were very different from now. A colleague used to commute daily from Lewes to Brighton - an 8-mile journey. In those days you could buy a 3-monthly return, either the outward or the return journey could be done within the 3-month timeline. It was printed on a single cardboard ticket, not the 2-part ticket they give you today. The idea was to simply show the ticket to the collector on the way out, and hand it in on the return leg. Sometimes the collector would punch the ticket to show that the outward journey had been done, sometimes not. For the purpose of my colleague's dodge, he had to avoid this happening.

So what was my colleague's 'dodge' then? He bought two return tickets of course, one for Lewes to Brighton and back, and one for Brighton to Lewes and back. He showed the outward-going ticket to the collector each time. So he used the same tickets over and over again.

The collectors got suspicious after a while, and alerted the Transport Police. They put a plain-clothes tail on my colleague, and arrested him just outside Lewes station in full view of all the other commuters. He admitted the offence and a lot of 'previous' he'd done, and was summonsed to appear before the local Magistrates.

Then he had the effrontery to ask me to 'cover' for him at work, avoid telling the boss why he was having a day off to appear in court. At that point I lost my cool. I said, it's your problem mate, you walked into it, you sort it...

He got a fine. And was ordered to pay up all the outstanding fares. He was told he'd narrowly escaped a prison sentence, mainly because he'd 'fessed up.

End of story. :thumbsup:
 
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