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Dommo

Veteran
Location
Greenwich
Since we've had multiple new cycle lanes appearing around here which cross from one side of the road to the other, the crossing point is marked as shown in the image. Do these lines actually signify anything legal to the drivers (ie, do not cross unless you can exit) or are they simply a guide to show where the cycle lane continues?

Naturally the reason I ask is that as soon as congestion builds up, pretty much every vehicle I've ever seen is happy to get through the lights and then park over the cycle lane, forcing the stream of cyclists to filter through 45 degree offset traffic. This has led to several near misses that I've seen.

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Drago

Legendary Member
They don't appear to be traditional give way markings.
 

Gunk

Guru
Location
Oxford
Since we've had multiple new cycle lanes appearing around here which cross from one side of the road to the other, the crossing point is marked as shown in the image. Do these lines actually signify anything legal to the drivers (ie, do not cross unless you can exit) or are they simply a guide to show where the cycle lane continues?

Naturally the reason I ask is that as soon as congestion builds up, pretty much every vehicle I've ever seen is happy to get through the lights and then park over the cycle lane, forcing the stream of cyclists to filter through 45 degree offset traffic. This has led to several near misses that I've seen.

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Looks like Bermondsey, my Father grew up there.
 

OldShep

Über Member
Elephant’s footprints Page 8 https://content.tfl.gov.uk/lcds-chapter6-signsandmarkings.pdf
Delineates a dedicated cycle route so you’d assume vehicles shouldn’t be sat in it but I wouldn’t stake my life on it.
https://www.cycling-embassy.org.uk/dictionary/elephants-footprints
In the UK 'elephants footprint' markings have a similar status; they do not give priority, but merely define a cycling route across a junction. Notably, in the UK they are only permitted at signalised junctions, and require specific approval from the Department for Transport.
 
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mjr

Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
Elephant’s footprints Page 8 https://content.tfl.gov.uk/lcds-chapter6-signsandmarkings.pdf
Delineates a dedicated cycle route so you’d assume vehicles shouldn’t be sat in it but I wouldn’t stake my life on it.
https://www.cycling-embassy.org.uk/dictionary/elephants-footprints
In the UK 'elephants footprint' markings have a similar status; they do not give priority, but merely define a cycling route across a junction. Notably, in the UK they are only permitted at signalised junctions, and require specific approval from the Department for Transport.
Since 2016, no special permission has been needed. They are item 57 in the Part 2 table of https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/schedule/14/made

The marking simply indiates how the cycle route crosses the lit junction. Like the little squares that show pedestrian and toucan crossings, motorists should not stop blocking it, but it's not a "MUST NOT" with its own fine and half of London's drivers ignore most "should not"s. It should be seen as carelessness if there is a collision. As far as cycling goes, treat it as advice and do what you decide to be safest.
 
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Alex321

Veteran
Location
South Wales
There is a similar marking atv this junction in Cardiff. But this one goes across a yellow box, so cars shouldn't be bocking it because of thaht.
https://www.google.com/maps/@51.476...yoXh6jNZc9BUu2Xw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu

Too new to be on streetview from the direction you would be using it, but there is also a separate lights for the cyclists, which go green for them several seconds before the main lights do - not sure just howe long after, as I'm always across the junction before the other traffic starts moving.

As far as I'm aware, it is just guidance for cyclists because the cycle lane switches to the other side of the road after the junction (though I'm always turning right under the bridge there on my commute).
 

Dogtrousers

Kilometre nibbler
Since 2016, no special permission has been needed. They are item 57 in the Part 2 table of https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2016/362/schedule/14/made

The marking simply indiates how the cycle route crosses the lit junction. Like the little squares that show pedestrian and toucan crossings, motorists should not stop blocking it, but it's not a "MUST NOT" with its own fine and half of London's drivers ignore most "should not"s. It should be seen as carelessness if there is a collision. As far as cycling goes, treat it as advice and do what you decide to be safest.

I know what you mean, but it made me chuckle. Don't stop blocking them, motorists. Keep on blocking!
 
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