GeekDadZoid
Über Member
That figure sounds quite high. I wonder if he meant 40% of trips on the scooters replace car journeys.
Andy Burnham: don’t throw Manchester hire bikes in the canal
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That figure sounds quite high. I wonder if he meant 40% of trips on the scooters replace car journeys.
Drago
Legendary Member
Up my end the university lot are liable to be the culprits for anything like that which happens, andna fair few hiremscooters seem to end up in the Nene in close proximity to
bonzobanana
Guru
Always depressing when you see these schemes failing due to vandalism and general abuse but I have to say completely expected in many city environments which have a high crime rate. We are not Japan where the vast majority of people including teenagers are law abiding and they can have vending machines on every block because its extremely rare for them to be vandalised or even leave bicycles unlocked for long periods of time. You have to work with what you have got and clearly you have to have a scheme where such vermin cannot get access to such bikes to abuse them and there may be locations where it simply isn't possible to run such a scheme because it is destined to fail.
Drago
Legendary Member
Indeed. In Japan even the Angels and Nomads can be seen going round pickup up litter after a biker meet!
And thats what sets my teeth on edge when the government and large organisations use the fact that "it worked well in XYZ cohntry" as justification for doing something here. Rarely do good ideas transplant difectly into British culture, in large lart due to this kind of muppetry.
And thats what sets my teeth on edge when the government and large organisations use the fact that "it worked well in XYZ cohntry" as justification for doing something here. Rarely do good ideas transplant difectly into British culture, in large lart due to this kind of muppetry.
fossyant
Ride It Like You Stole It!
Not sure how many bikes, but looking at the Salford Trial (on the app) there aren't that many. With the docks not being locked, I can see it going the mobike way. At least if you park your bike near the dock (even if full) you won't get charged extra. I assume the docks must charge the leccy bikes. The app isn't giving much away as the scheme doesn't launch for a week or so.
AndyRM
XOXO
Yeah, I was reading about that the other night. Very clever sounding bit of kit. I also didn't know you weren't allowed electric scooters on the Metro!
These schemes fail not because there are yoofs but because of poor planning.
All the Chinese low value and dockless scheme failed in cities around the world and not just in the UK. People abandoned the bikes. Boris Bikes were one of the pioneers. Transport for London did the planning and Serco given the maintenance contracts. Serco even had maintenance contracts for dockless bikes but withdrew after the contract expired due to vandalism and missing bikes.
The Boris bikes were tough, heavy and manufactured in Canada based on specs provided by Transport for London. The original scheme was supposed to be a pilot and Barclays underwrote the cost as sponsors. It became success.
And believe me there are more yoofs in London.
All the Chinese low value and dockless scheme failed in cities around the world and not just in the UK. People abandoned the bikes. Boris Bikes were one of the pioneers. Transport for London did the planning and Serco given the maintenance contracts. Serco even had maintenance contracts for dockless bikes but withdrew after the contract expired due to vandalism and missing bikes.
The Boris bikes were tough, heavy and manufactured in Canada based on specs provided by Transport for London. The original scheme was supposed to be a pilot and Barclays underwrote the cost as sponsors. It became success.
And believe me there are more yoofs in London.
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Rusty Nails
We remember
bonzobanana
Guru
I guess its been a success in the number of users but its been hugely subsidised by the taxpayer and really it should be self-financing. It's expensive bikes, expensive maintenance and of course many bikes disappear etc. The scheme seems to have very little regard for keeping costs down.
https://www.verdict.co.uk/londons-b...taxpayers-nearly-200m-foi-disclosure-reveals/
annedonnelly
Girl from the North Country
Metro banned the mobility type scooters many years ago after someone lost control on boarding and bashed through the opposite doors onto the track
AndyRM
XOXO
Metro banned the mobility type scooters many years ago after someone lost control on boarding and bashed through the opposite doors onto the track
Ah yeah, I remember that now. The doors on the Metro are very, very flimsy. But then they are over 40 years old!
annedonnelly
Girl from the North Country
Most likley. And his figures will be skewed anyway by people WFH during most of the trial period.
I had the misfortune to be on a bus out of Newcastle this afternoon & traffic seems to have returned to pre-pandemic levels
AndyRM
XOXO
Most likley. And his figures will be skewed anyway by people WFH during most of the trial period.
I had the misfortune to be on a bus out of Newcastle this afternoon & traffic seems to have returned to pre-pandemic levels
I was on one to the MetroCentre around 11.30 and the bottom deck was pretty much full! Barely any mask wearing either.
It wasn't so bad on the way back to the correct side of the river.
Not been on a bus here for years, those QR code ticket things are pretty neat, but you have to get the reading height pretty spot on.
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If you stand in any of the busy corner of London, you will inevitably realise the majority of users are tourists. It helps with tourism which is significant revenue earner for us. Ever wondered it has not be scrapped or debated by the various parties in Parliament. It no different to paying for roads, infrastructure.
Cities around are looking for bike schemes for similar reason.
Anyway we talking about bikes thrown in canals.
