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Contador fails drug test

Discussion in 'Pro Cycling' started by Flying_Monkey, 30 Sep 2010.

  1. kennykool

    kennykool Well-Known Member

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    Perthshire
    Its always the way tho Keith - Guilty until proved innocent. Its unfortuately the nature of the beast that has been created over the years. Posters on here are always quick to question a great performance by a rider. It's down to "porridge" most of the time.

    I always like to believe that these riders are clean until proved otherwise. But i suppose i am fairly new to cycling and am not cynical.......yet!!!!!!
  2. PaulB

    PaulB Veteran

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    Colne
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    Surely this is an irrelevant non story. 400 times less than anti-doping laboratories accredited by the World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) must be able to detect! That is so insignificant, it cannot be worth pursuing. Not when he continually came up negative in previous and subsequent testings. This is pedantic nit-picking of the worst sort and could turn out to embarrass the credibility of the sport more than if they'd discovered an amount 400 times more concentrated than that they actually detected. What are they doing? Showing off at how miniscule the amount they can detect? My, aren't they clever!
  3. Tim Bennet.

    Tim Bennet. Entirely Average Member

    Location:
    S of Kendal
    That's because Contador issued a press release with the full details.
    Both his A and B samples have been tested and he's not contesting their accuracy.
    He's been suspended from racing.

    So how exactly is he 'guilty until proven innocent'? Who exactly is to blame for this being public knowledge being as it was Contador that released the information?

    Funny how the cheat apologists are always Armstrong fans.
  4. Keith Oates

    Keith Oates Janner

    Location:
    Nantong, China
    I wondered how long it would be before his name was linked into the thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  5. monkeypony

    monkeypony Active Member


    Well said that man.

    Not a Contador fan myself but feel very sorry for him and the damage this will have done to his reputation.
  6. kennykool

    kennykool Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Perthshire
    How does any doping scandal always manage to get LA brought up

    Lets look at the facts here - ALBERTO CONTADOR has tested positive!! They werent even on the same team this year!

    WTF has that got to do with LA - get over yourself!
  7. John the Monkey

    John the Monkey Frivolous Cyclist

    Location:
    Crewe
    Good summary of the rules over at the "Inner Ring" blog.

    Essentially, if he can prove he's not at fault, the ban can be reduced - but there is still a ban for a positive test.
  8. e-rider

    e-rider Hot Member

    Location:
    England

    Do you mean picodosing?
  9. Smokin Joe

    Smokin Joe Veteran

    Location:
    Fishguard
    Willy Voet on Clenbuterol -

    "Banned from the market in France, Clenbuterol is one of the most powerful hormones when it comes to developing muscular mass. Beef rearers are well aware of its properties: the more meat they can sell, the more money they make. It can give spectacular muscle growth. To work out its effects precisely, we needed a guinea-pig, but it couldn't be one of the riders. They are so happy to be given something new that they tend to lose all restraint and the whole pelelon knows exactly what's happening over the next few weeks. We found the right man soon enough: me. Before the Dauphine Libere in 1996 I took ten pills over seven days, then urinated conscientiously into a jar from days five to eight after taking the final pill. The whole works was then sent to a laboratory in Ghent. The Clenbuterol had been eliminated from my system by day eight. For a cyclist, who will get rid of chemicals far more quickly than someone sedentary like me, the period was still shorter.

    And the effects were felt almost immediately. Three hours after I took the first pill, I began shivering. I had the impression that my lungs were swelling, that I had a new battery somewhere in the system. I felt confident, full of energy, strong as a bull - on hormones. The effects lasted for more than a month, effects which we used with good results in the big Tours after that."
  10. e-rider

    e-rider Hot Member

    Location:
    England

    yes, it would be interesting to know the limit of detection and the limit of quatification for the instrument used for analysis. It does seem like more media nonsense to me.
  11. Smeggers II

    Smeggers II Daphne Ariadne Clingfilm

    How did he actually perform on the 21st July?
  12. kennykool

    kennykool Well-Known Member

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    Perthshire

    Think it was a rest day - he slept like a baby
  13. philipbh

    philipbh Spectral Cyclist

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    Out the back

    But...doesn't section 10.3 apply - unintentional use of Specified Substances

    If AC establishes that the level of Clenbutarol in his samples is at a level that could not enhance performance (see PaulB's comment) - then as a first offence the best he can hope for is a reprimand - the worst is still a one year ban
  14. threebikesmcginty

    threebikesmcginty charmless nerk

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    Woke up every hour crying?
  15. Smokin Joe

    Smokin Joe Veteran

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    Fishguard
    It's more than media nonsense.

    Contador has been suspended by the UCI and will almost certainly be banned and stripped of his Tour win. He tested positive for a banned substance, there is no precedent as far as I know where the offence is mitigated because the amount was very small, and neither does it matter how he ingested it. Saying he eat contaminated meat will not wipe out the offence, all it could do is shorten the length of the ban if he is believed. (Bearing in mind they Didn't buy Landis's story about beer).
  16. raindog

    raindog er.....

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    France
    blimey - thanks for that!
  17. kennykool

    kennykool Well-Known Member

    Location:
    Perthshire

    ha ha - love it
  18. rich p

    rich p ridiculous old lush

    Location:
    Brighton

    The lab has found contamination in both samples, the UCI have provisionally suspended him and Bertie leaks the information himself by informing the media that he is holding a press conference today.

    How do you blame the media?
  19. dan_bo

    dan_bo Doctor of mechanical sympathy

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    Failsworth
    Yeah whatever :thumbsup:

    [spod alert] It's not that small an amount, 50 pg(per microlitre I assume), as it goes- only eight times less than the 'threshold' as stated. Not that I know much (if anything) about PED use but it is easily detectable by modern (in fact not even that modern] instrumentation. Standard specs on instruments even ten years old measure down to the tens of femtogram level. I wonder why there is a seemingly arbitary threshold in use?[/spod alert]
  20. Bollo

    Bollo You can scrub my legs!

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    Winch
    Was he doping with Tixilix?