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davy
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Struth !!!...... that really is pushing it.......Labradors was not a breed I would associate with aggressive behaviour ...thanks for the heads up
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Struth !!!...... that really is pushing it.......Labradors was not a breed I would associate with aggressive behaviour ...thanks for the heads up
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davy
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thanks for searching for them ,,,gave a a good chuckle they did LoL
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davy
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Drago....thank you so much for your informed reply.......I will keep that info and hold it ,printed out in readiness ...most useful .cheers
Pale Rider
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I agree the copper was spectacularly dense, even for a member of a profession not known for its high intellect.
But at least he made a decent response to the incident itself, and in fairly short order.
Kudos to the OP for motivating the police to do something, which is often the hardest part of reporting a crime.
But at least he made a decent response to the incident itself, and in fairly short order.
Kudos to the OP for motivating the police to do something, which is often the hardest part of reporting a crime.
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No problem. PM me direct if you need to pick my brain.
It's a small 🧠 so shouldn't take long. Mind you, it's just big enough that I never had to resort to journalism.
Arjimlad
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Slick
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I'm actually quite surprised and a bit disappointed just how many people are willing to stick the boot in to an animal.
I suppose the above will give the K9 SAS another chance to regurgitate the devil dog scenario and the right to defend yourself, which is obviously true, but lifting your feet to an animal is not the answer.
I suppose the above will give the K9 SAS another chance to regurgitate the devil dog scenario and the right to defend yourself, which is obviously true, but lifting your feet to an animal is not the answer.
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davy
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let us hope you never do ....thanks for your good wishes
Ajax Bay
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Absolutely. Waste of time, dogs have better reactions than humans and a close leg is a target, not a threat from the dog's PoV, and likely to both fail and aggravate.
In this situation, attack is not the best form of defence, and also leaves one open to accusations, however unreasonable, of aggression oneself by the dog's owner and onlookers, if any.
[Dog owner/exerciser/cuddler for 30+ years]
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Fastpedaller
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My experience with dogs out of control, and more importantly the Police lack of response wasn't good either. Basically, the owners were 'nice people' and the dog (in the Police Officer's opinion) was friendly. My opinion that the dog was a danger to someone riding a bike was dismissed, and the officer said if I went to the owner's house they'd give me a cup of tea and I could meet the dog. I think my reluctance to do that was looked upon as 'not co-operating' by the Officer. He was clearly not interested in taking any action, repeatedly stating the owners were nice people. It's a long story, so I won't go into more detail, but on the third occasion it went for me it was a mile from its home, and had passed a farm to get there. I pointed this out to the officer, and said that maybe I'd have a word with the farmer, because if it worried his animals he could shoot it! I've not seen the dog since (I hope it hasn't been shot), but maybe the message got home to the owners. It shouldn't be necessary for the victims to 'dig their heals in' or become 'very assertive' for the Police to do something, but alas it appears they don't want to apply the law when it suits them (easier than doing the paperwork?)
I wish you a quick recovery, and would just add that I think you did the correct thing...... you were not at fault IMHO.
ETA After chase 2 and before chase 3 I heard from a villager that the dogs (lots at the address) aren't chipped. When I explained to the Officer about chase 3 being a mile from the dog's home, I asked 'is this why dogs are chipped? in case they go a long distance' He seemed very defensive, and i wonder if he knows they aren't chipped.
I wish you a quick recovery, and would just add that I think you did the correct thing...... you were not at fault IMHO.
ETA After chase 2 and before chase 3 I heard from a villager that the dogs (lots at the address) aren't chipped. When I explained to the Officer about chase 3 being a mile from the dog's home, I asked 'is this why dogs are chipped? in case they go a long distance' He seemed very defensive, and i wonder if he knows they aren't chipped.
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Didn't have far to search, they were in my bedside cabinet. A signed copy by Johnny Helms himself, to my Dad. They knew each other well.
ExBrit
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That is like saying if there is an active shooter you should not look for cover because that just makes them more aggressive.
a.twiddler
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You are the only poster to mention "sticking the boot into an animal". The OP would not have been exercising the right to defend himself unless he was being attacked, which seems to have been unprovoked and sudden enough that he couldn't get his bike in between himself and his attacker in time. Was the dog injured? Apparently not. Was the OP injured? Manifestly, yes, and fortunate not to have further injuries.
Most of the other posts have been fairly balanced and certainly haven't sought to demonise dogs. I have had run ins with dogs over the years, but most of my experiences have been positive. As a last resort I would certainly use whatever objects I had to hand to defend myself if I had to.
To their owners they may be their loyal, affectionate fur baby companions, they're "just playing" even when they bark and chase you, "they don't mean it" when they snarl and bare their teeth at you, but for people on the receiving end of the activities of a poorly trained dog, it's no joke. Many people have a fear of dogs, maybe from a childhood experience of being bitten, or a more recent experience. The old saying, "every dog is allowed one bite" is all very well, until you're the one it bites. In the grand scheme of things, actual dog bites are rare, but the fear of it happening affects many people, and one occurrence spreads like ripples on a pond to affect others who hear about it.
Going on about "K9 SAS" and "regurgitating the devil dog scenario" is not helpful. It might work for tabloid newspapers who like to demonise
social groups, but I hope we're better than that here. Either your dog is properly trained and under control, or it's not, and the penalties for that should be more stringently applied.
I suppose that there will now be a torrent of posts from dog owners stating how well controlled their dogs are. My dog never does this, that, or the other etc, and no doubt they are right. Nobody is going to post about what a rotten, uncaring dog owner they are, and what an unruly slavering monster their particular mutt is.
It just seems rather self indulgent to be a dog owner and enjoy the benefits of pet ownership, then expect the rest of the population to have to put up with the downsides if you don't put in the effort to train it and keep it under control.
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As with any animal, it's a two way street. You only get out what you put in.
