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Exhaust fumes

Discussion in 'Commuting' started by Sandra6, 18 Sep 2012.

  1. Sandra6

    Sandra6 Über Member

    Location:
    Cumbria
    I've been cycling to and from work for a year now and exhaust fumes have never been an issue, but last night the driver of a red something or other really had to get in front of me just in time to join the queue of traffic to the roundabout. I then had to sit behind him breathing in noxious fumes as the exhaust belched out black smoke.
    I kind of hope that means his car is about to break down.
    Not content with pulling in front of me, he then shot off at the RAB right into the path of an oncoming car.
    I kind of hope that means he'll crash soon too.
     
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  2. Maz

    Maz Guru

    Breakdown or crash? Hmm, I'm not sure I'd want to wish the driver any ill will.
    I'd feel a lot calmer with Karma.:smile:
     
  3. BLUE(UK)

    BLUE(UK) Active Member

    Why did you not simply just move to the other side of the car or even filter?
     
  4. Davidc

    Davidc Veteran

    Location:
    Somerset UK
    Happens, but your ill wishes aren't very pleasant. Better the vehicle fails its MOT or the police pick it up. (Probably only if they end up behind it in a queue!)
     
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  5. Cress1968

    Cress1968 Active Member

    Maybe his car had just started doing it and maybe he has put it in to get repaired? Maybe as said you could have just moved away from said fumes and maybe just maybe you shouldn't wish crashes on people???
     
  6. Sandra6

    Sandra6 Über Member

    Location:
    Cumbria
    Tbh I never know quite where I'm supposed to be at the RAB.
    So, it's two lanes - one for the left turn, the other for straight on or right. I am going straight on.
    Sometimes if there's just a couple of cars I will filter to the left of the cars and go with the front car, although I always feel that's wrong. If there are cars in the other lane there's no room for me to filter - as was the case this time - so I was stuck behind the car.
    Maybe wishing a crash was a bit harsh, a failed MOT would be better.
     
  7. BLUE(UK)

    BLUE(UK) Active Member

    Firstly, and this isn't aimed at you personally, I find there are a few attitudes that sound very 'us and them'......'cyclists and motorists'. I walk,cycle,motorcycle and drive cars and vans so I guess I have no bias.
    IMO,Todays road users(whether you like it or not),demands an assertive road user,this applies whichever mode of movement you choose.I can tell you how I would personally approach various junctions but it will not necessarily work for you due to road positioning,presence,speed and timing. One would perhaps find me to be quite aggressive but I ride like I am invisible(same as on the motorbike). For your situation, from what I can gather, on the approach I would stay in the middle of the left lane and watch for traffic from the right as I get closer whilst adjusting my speed and with my momentum,beat the front car off the mark,if that didn't work on the approach, I would aim for second place but after clearing the left hand turn off I would allow plenty of space for the car that let me in to pass at the earliest safest time. This works for me and it has done since I was a kid. I am not suggesting you do the same unless you feel confident in your abilities because getting it wrong could be the last thing you do.

    I only get the odd driver not be too happy but it's very few and far between for me to care and if they decide to pull over for their best SIlverback Gorilla impersonation......it could be that their day could be about to get much worse.:angel:

    Good luck.
     
  8. Sandra6

    Sandra6 Über Member

    Location:
    Cumbria
    I get what you're saying Blue, and if you're going at speed that would work, but it's a little side street, minor RAB (think I may have bigged it up lol)
    Here
    http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?oe=ut...&sa=X&ei=RHdZUKVlhbHRBfafgJAJ&ved=0CCIQ8gEwAA
    I've just come from one side street, made a right, and am on that road wanting to go straight over and up the hill.
    There is usually a lot of traffic passing in front of me as those are more major roads.
     
  9. fossyant

    fossyant Ride It Like You Stole It! Staff Member

    Location:
    South Manchester
    Don't worry about it - the black smoke most likely means it's a diesel - they don't half puff out crap at times, especially when the driver boots it.
     
  10. thefollen

    thefollen Senior Member

    Location:
    Balham/Tooting Bec
    I tend to hold my breath if it's a bit fumey, especially behind busses. Can be a fun challenge to get past a row of them without breathing! If I do happen to breathe in fumes, before it goes right down I breathe out very sharply.
     
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  11. Arjimlad

    Arjimlad Senior Moments

    Location:
    South Glos
    When cycling to lectures as a student I'd frequently get stuck behind a smelly old bus, and found I could be coughing for hours afterwards. I have had bronchitis in the past & have to look after my lungs.

    I have never worn a mask. Nowadays my commute is mainly rural roads, but certainly when a vehicle kicks out a load of black soot, I hold my breath until I am past .

    If it were to happen in a traffic queue, I would expect the car to be moving, and to be able to move out of the way of the soot myself.
     
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  12. Drago

    Drago Flaccid Member

    Here' a slightly tongue in cheek plan - all cars should have their exhaust gases captured in a bottle. Every week the bottle is opened and the fumes released in the drivers own house. You can bet they'll suddenly get any faults fixed!

    This is why I'm quite left-wing with smokers. Most ex smokers like myself are rabidly anti-fag, many of them getting in a right old strop if someone sparks up near them. However, try sitting in traffic breathing the exhaust fumes from a non-smokers car and it kind of changes your perspective. How can one type of air polltion be so anti-social these days, while another type is happily emitted by the same folk who would moan about used cig smoke?
     
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  13. fossyant

    fossyant Ride It Like You Stole It! Staff Member

    Location:
    South Manchester
    Oh and don't get me started on diesel vehicle drivers.... all that soot makes a right mess of my bike after a couple of days. :tongue:
     
  14. Nigel-YZ1

    Nigel-YZ1 Veteran

    Location:
    Penistone
    There's a lot of red diesel and chip oil burning going on these days. A mechanic friend tells me that makes things more smoky.
     
  15. jonny jeez

    jonny jeez Veteran

    Filter...geddit...very good:laugh:

    Oh wait....
     
  16. BLUE(UK)

    BLUE(UK) Active Member

    Hmmm, I guess you'd either take a calculated risk or stand on your feet, pick up your bike and shuffle sideways til you're on the side of the vehicle without an exhaust unless of course it's on both sides or there is a side wind. I know which i'd do if there was any gap but then some would say my riding is unsafe yet others would see it as assertive. :-/

    I don't think any cases are simply black or white.
     
  17. BLUE(UK)

    BLUE(UK) Active Member

    Red diesel is not a smoke producing additive, it is simply a dye. Most things using red diesel don't need to adhere to emissions so they just chug on. The quality of the diesel may be slightly less if at all but it's the same.
    Chip oil, well it smells of chips.( I've no experience in this ).
     
  18. BLUE(UK)

    BLUE(UK) Active Member

    Haha.
     
  19. TonyEnjoyD

    TonyEnjoyD Veteran

    The week before last on my commute I held up a car as I was In primary approaching a central reserve.
    Once past it, he tear-arsed past me in his WRS with baby-walker handle on the boot, belching smoke.
    About a mile down the road he was at te side of the road....blown head at least as there was a lovely haze a round his car and lots of fluid of some sort tricking away from under the engine - god must be a cyclist too ;)
     
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  20. Teuchter

    Teuchter Über Member

    Location:
    Erskine, Scotland
    Used to work with someone who wore a face mask while cycling to protect him from the effects of exhaust fumes...

    He'd get to work, change out of cycling gear and immediately go and light up a fag.