The Armstrong Lie

[rich p]

You appear to have missed my original reply, so just to assist you I will link to it.... (The Armstrong Lie)




Again, as you appear to have either missed the reply - I will link to it: The Armstrong Lie


Now what is really ironic is that you were asked where you are with your bizarre allegations about trolling and your complaint to the moderators?

Your reply was:




I assume that you are and that it can also be presumed that you have realised they were unsubstantiated and failed to report as a result?

To be brutally honest, I just have fun trying to translate your replies into English.

 

[Louch]

Going mainstream with what someone says to their dr when you are in that meeting, that's what gets me about her. She made the first move with coming clean to walsh, if she wasn't prepared or the fallout, then she's not as clever as she paints herself. All her testimonies come across to me as jealousy that lance was more successfull than Frankie. That I find her unlikeable, and questIon her, Walsh and kimmages motives, doesn't mean I find lance innocent.

 

[rich p]

If you can't get along, can't you both just ignore one another?!?

Point taken - I've wrung as much fun out of his tripe as I can. I'll give it a rest, my apologies!

 

[ufkacbln]

Maybe with what Armstrong said about her it got personal and she wouldnt drop it like armstrong hoped she would...she isnt the bad person in all this and you seem to think she is..

I think that one of the problems was there were a number of factors that stopped people coming forward. Whether that was genuine fear, misplaced loyalty to others, or concern over the result of testifying, She had a friendship with Armstrong

Some reports make her the force behind Frankie Andreu's testimony about doping, and once Armstrong then rounded on them, she stood up and fought

At times she may have been a victim, she may have been an accomplice, and also one of the key figures in Armstrong's downfall

Decide for yourselves where she should be placed

 

[tug benson]

I think that one of the problems was there were a number of factors that stopped people coming forward. Whether that was genuine fear, misplaced loyalty to others, or concern over the result of testifying, She had a friendship with Armstrong

Some reports make her the force behind Frankie Andreu's testimony about doping, and once Armstrong then rounded on them, she stood up and fought

At times she may have been a victim, she may have been an accomplice, and also one of the key figures in Armstrong's downfall

Decide for yourselves where she should be placed

on the good side

 

[ufkacbln]

Point taken - I've wrung as much fun out of his tripe as I can. I'll give it a rest, my apologies!

Before you go....

Whilst I realise that your normal stance is that anyone who does not agree with your agenda is trolling....

Could you at least have the courtesy to let us know where the report to the moderators abut "trolling" is, or have you finally recognised how absurd your unfounded accusations were and backed down?

 

[tug benson]

Going mainstream with what someone says to their dr when you are in that meeting, that's what gets me about her. She made the first move with coming clean to walsh, if she wasn't prepared or the fallout, then she's not as clever as she paints herself. All her testimonies come across to me as jealousy that lance was more successfull than Frankie. That I find her unlikeable, and questIon her, Walsh and kimmages motives, doesn't mean I find lance innocent.

good becuase he isnt

 

[Louch]

Before you go....

Could you at least have the courtesy to let us know where the report to the moderators abut "trolling" is, or have you finally recognised how absurd it was?

Give it arest please or I will report. Take it to pm if you have to contest it.

 

[tug benson]

Before you go....

Whilst I realise that your normal stance is that anyone who does not agree with your agenda is trolling....

Could you at least have the courtesy to let us know where the report to the moderators abut "trolling" is, or have you finally recognised how absurd your unfounded accusations were and backed down?

Now you're trolling

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

Going mainstream with what someone says to their dr when you are in that meeting, that's what gets me about her. She made the first move with coming clean to walsh, if she wasn't prepared or the fallout, then she's not as clever as she paints herself. All her testimonies come across to me as jealousy that lance was more successfull than Frankie. That I find her unlikeable, and questIon her, Walsh and kimmages motives, doesn't mean I find lance innocent.

Seriously? that's why you think she did it? Jeezo.

 

[Louch]

good becuase he isnt

neither is she. She kept quiet until Frankie lost his contract. She didn't mind his epo use when the cheques where falling through the door. Team sky have right approach, all those involved in doping have no innocence,

 

[ufkacbln]

Give it arest please or I will report. Take it to pm if you have to contest it.

I am quite happy to let it rest that the petty trolling accusation was unfounded and hence no complaint, or reply.

 

[tug benson]

neither is she. She kept quiet until Frankie lost his contract. She didn't mind his epo use when the cheques where falling through the door. Team sky have right approach, all those involved in doping have no innocence,

from what i can remember from the books didn`t betsy find out about frankie doping and made him stop as soon as she found out?...maybe if lance didnt go on the attack as much as he did and try and ruin inncent folk others wouldnt have to speak out about him..and lets not forget lance ruined innocent folk

 

[tug benson]

neither is she. She kept quiet until Frankie lost his contract. She didn't mind his epo use when the cheques where falling through the door. Team sky have right approach, all those involved in doping have no innocence,

betsy is innocent

 

[Pro Tour Punditry]

I am quite happy to let it rest that the petty trolling accusation was unfounded and hence no complaint, or reply.

Others have replied to you covering your points, it's not a 2-person thread. I'm quite happy to engage with you re this - few here excuse doping. We do, however, contextualise it. If you search the forum you'll see many discussions on doping and almost universal agreement that it is not acceptable (with a few exceptions from posters who accept it as part of the sport).