1910 Tour de France route.

[Noodley]

This is a long shot, but does anyone know where I can find out the full route of the 1910 Tour de France - it was the first time the tour went into the Pyrenees.

(I was not sure what section to put this in so opted for the all-round smarty pants venue of cafe )

 

[Dayvo]

The 1910 route is about halfway down:

http://le-grimpeur.net/blog/archives/20

You might need a magnifying glass!

 

[Noodley]

Cheers Dayvo. I tried a magnifying glass but still no bloody use, but there's enough to be getting on with.

The pic at the very bottom is scary...

As an aside: the article says Faber had his best placing in 1910 but I believe he won it in 1909, the first rider to win 5 consecutive stages - yes, I am a nerd and yes I did check it in a book just to make sure

 

[Abitrary]

Is the 1910 one the one where they all crashed and had to hitch a ride on a tractor to the finish line?

 

[Noodley]

I'm not aware of the tractor playing a part, but it may have - I am not as nerdy to know evreything . I have only recently started to learn about the early Tours, quite unbelievable achievements TBH.

The stories of determination and the stories of cheating are fascinating...

The 1910 Tour grabbed my attention, and it got me thinking of a cunning plan pipe dream. Nothing will come of it but it would be good to learn of the "Assassins" Tour.

1910 was the Tour of the famous "Vous etes des assassins" quote, uttered by Octave Lapize (I hope it was him as I have now put my reference book back on the bookshelf and cannot be arsed getting up again to check - if not, apologies) the eventual winner to officials as he rode the Aubisque.

 

[531c]

The stage towns and distances are below, but no idea about which mountain passes were included:

Stage 1, Paris to Roubaix, 272km
Stage 2, Roubaix to Metz, 398km
Stage 3, Metz to Belfort, 259km
Stage 4, Belfort to Lyon, 309km
Stage 5, Lyon to Grenoble, 311km
Stage 6, Grenoble to Nice, 345km
Stage 7, Nice to Nimes, 345km
Stage 8, Nimes to Perpignan, 216km
Stage 9, Perpignan to Luchon, 289km
Stage 10, Luchoon to Bayonne, 326km
Stage 11, Bayonne to Bordeaux, 269km
Stage 12, Bordeaux to Nantes, 391km
Stage 13, Nantes to Brest, 321km
Stage 14, Brest to Caen, 424km
Stage 15, Caen to Paris 262km

 

[Noodley]

The stage towns and distances are below, but no idea about which mountain passes were included:

Stage 1, Paris to Roubaix, 272km
Stage 2, Roubaix to Metz, 398km
Stage 3, Metz to Belfort, 259km
Stage 4, Belfort to Lyon, 309km
Stage 5, Lyon to Grenoble, 311km
Stage 6, Grenoble to Nice, 345km
Stage 7, Nice to Nimes, 345km
Stage 8, Nimes to Perpignan, 216km
Stage 9, Perpignan to Luchon, 289km
Stage 10, Luchoon to Bayonne, 326km
Stage 11, Bayonne to Bordeaux, 269km
Stage 12, Bordeaux to Nantes, 391km
Stage 13, Nantes to Brest, 321km
Stage 14, Brest to Caen, 424km
Stage 15, Caen to Paris 262km

Excellent! Thanks. Did you have a telescope?

 

[531c]

Excellent! Thanks. Did you have a telescope?

No, insomnia and a very big Tour de France book

 

[Noodley]

No, insomnia and a very big Tour de France book

Which book is that?

And looking at the stage distances, even without knowing that the 'roads' were little more than rutted tracks, is stunning.

(back in my day, etc....)

 

[Abitrary]

Did they have support teams back then? Or was it just like wacky races with them all trying to elbow each other off mountain roads?

 

[Noodley]

Did they have support teams back then? Or was it just like wacky races with them all trying to elbow each other off mountain roads?

There were "teams" which developed but "support" usually meant people scuppering an opponent, eg nails on the road, beating them up. "Roads" were not a factor in the mountains - more likely to be rutted tracks.

 

[Abitrary]

There were "teams" which developed but "support" usually meant people scuppering an opponent, eg nails on the road, beating them up. "Roads" were not a factor in the mountains - more likely to be rutted tracks.

But wasn't this before pneumatic tyres?

 

[Noodley]

But wasn't this before pneumatic tyres?

we are not speaking the odd nail, but several thousand poured on the road...all to be fixed by the rider.

 

[Dayvo]

The stage towns and distances are below, but no idea about which mountain passes were included:

Stage 1, Paris to Roubaix, 272km
Stage 2, Roubaix to Metz, 398km
Stage 3, Metz to Belfort, 259km
Stage 4, Belfort to Lyon, 309km
Stage 5, Lyon to Grenoble, 311km
Stage 6, Grenoble to Nice, 345km
Stage 7, Nice to Nimes, 345km
Stage 8, Nimes to Perpignan, 216km
Stage 9, Perpignan to Luchon, 289km
Stage 10, Luchoon to Bayonne, 326km
Stage 11, Bayonne to Bordeaux, 269km
Stage 12, Bordeaux to Nantes, 391km
Stage 13, Nantes to Brest, 321km
Stage 14, Brest to Caen, 424km
Stage 15, Caen to Paris 262km

Look at those distances!
The shortest was 216 km, a mere walk in the park, between Nimes and Perpignan (a journey I myself have undertaken, but not the same route )

Noodley! Are you in training for your speciialist subject for 'Mastermind' or something?

I must agree that there is something very appealing about those early tours.

 

[Desert Orchid]

stage 10 did Peyresourde, Aspin, Tourmalet and Aubisque in one stage
and 1910 also saw the introduction of the broom wagon.