5 day light tent touring bike

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Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
Crankarm generally makes interesting posts - sadly he editted the latest before I even saw it.

You are in luck. I have commuted and toured on both. My Trek 7.5fx (1999/2000 vintage) has the stronger frame so can carry heavier loads. The Specialised Sirrus (2003 vintage) frame although good starts to flex a bit more when carrying a heavyish load. When I say load I mean the panniers loaded up front and back plus bar bag and lifting the bike is quite hard. Of course it is better to travel light but there are some things one cannot do without.

Also I noticed a few months back that the tube wall thickness of seat tube of the Trek 7.5fx frame is like twice the thickness of the Specialised Sirrus seat tube which might explain why the Sirrus frame seems to flex just a little more than the Trek.

Both bikes now have a pair of good handbuilt wheels on them. Although I still do have the original wheels. The original Sirrus Alesia deep rim I use as a winter wheel. It has been rebuilt with DT DB and plain gauge spokes though as the factory wheel was cack. I believe that the modern variants of these bikes may now offer carbon forks or more race orientated wheels with fewer spokes which might present a problem if you intend to use them mainly for touring carrying a load as the wheels will not be strong enough as not enough spokes and being factory built wheels they WILL NOT be as strong as handbuilt wheels. Both my bikes came with 32H 700C factory built wheels. IIRC the Trek 7.5FX rear wheel kept pinging spokes as well soon after purchase so I had that rebuilt as well foc.

I think the Trek came with 32C tyres - Kenda not great but then not totally crap. The Sirrus had awful tyres which I swapped immediately for Armadillo All Conditions. I use 25C and 28C tyres depending on where I am going and the load I intend carrying. Currently I think I have a 23C Armadillo All Condition Pro on the front of the Sirrus and the Alesia winter rim on the back with a 28C Armadillo All Condition. I think the max tyre size for the Sirrus might be 28C. It might take 32C at a push as there does seem to be a little bit more space. The Trek will easily take 32C, 35C even up to 37C tyres I think. On this I have Conti Travel Contacts which I have been very happy with. No punctures and good grip. It was supplied with 35C tyres iirc, but again you will have to check the modern variants to see if this remains the same.

When buying a bike in the past I have always tended to look most at the frame and considered the components next then accessories as the components are invariably of cheaper pedigree which will wear out after 2 years.

But of the two bikes I would use my Trek 7.5fx for more serious touring as the frame is just stronger IMHO. The paint job is also 100% more durable as the Specialised paint chips off sooooo easily. The Trek frame paint finish is so much better IMHO.

To both I have fitted adjustable Pro stems so I can very easily vary the height and angle of the handle bars. I also fitted bar ends. I also fitted road triple chain sets ditching the cheap and nasty MTB ones they were supplied with which soon wore out anyway. Names to avoid Ritchey (on the Sirrus) crank snapped and I think Truvativ on the Trek although Trek may have now upped the spec. Both bike BBs gave up after 2 years. They now have decent ones installed which will probably outlive me and if they need replacing I have spares.

In terms of load I do not like to place everything in rear panniers and on the rear rack of the bike for the simple reason there is already one's own weight over the rear wheel to consider. It makes for quite light steering which I do not like and can make the bike resonate at higher speeds particularly when descending. So I spread weight around when ever I can.

5 days touring is quite a short time away. If you were heading off RTW to really inhospitable places then maybe you might consider a dedicated expedition bike such as a Roberts, Kioga or Thorn on 26" 36H wheels with at least 35C tyres, full carrying capacity and even a trailer ................

HTH.
 
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John Ponting
Location
Herts

very interesting comments and views. I road a 2010 Sirrus Elite last week and am off to check out a Trek 7.5 fx today. I suspect I will go for the Trek.

I agree that Koga Miata, Roberts, Thorn, Galaxy etx dedicated tourers might be better for the 18 month RTW but I'll never be doing that. (never say never).
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge
The 2011 Trek 7.5 fx looks great in gloss black with some deep blue on top tube. Rides well, certainly easier than the Scott sub20. The shop should have kept it on the top shelf out of my reach - it is now adorning my house awaiting pedal swaps and a bit of fettling.


Weather looks good for tomorrow - glad I don't have to go to work.

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Nice bike John. I have to say I took a look at the current Trek 7.5fx in Cambridge today. I shall have to reserve my comments to the "older" vintage Trek 7.5FX. The current version still looks a fine bike but it appears aimed more at the fast road city commuter having a carbon fork so no front pannier eyelets, much less clearance between frame and fork and the tyres. A super looking frame with an excellent finish, but however a frame that looks too fragile for any serious touring or load carrying. I might be wrong but those are my impressions. It was also £700!!!!!! My 7.5fx was £299 or £399 iirc.

Anyway John enjoy riding your new bike. Trek has the best build quality of all bike manufacturers IMHO.
 

Banjo

Fuelled with Jelly Babies
Location
South Wales
The 2011 Trek 7.5 fx looks great in gloss black with some deep blue on top tube. Rides well, certainly easier than the Scott sub20. The shop should have kept it on the top shelf out of my reach - it is now adorning my house awaiting pedal swaps and a bit of fettling.


Weather looks good for tomorrow - glad I don't have to go to work.

http://www.trekbikes..._blackwhite.jpg

Nice looking bike John. I have a Trek Valencia Hybrid have done about 3500 miles over 15 months and very pleased with it.

It handled fine with 26 lbs of camping gear ,tools etc on the rear rack.Top speed was 35 and no wobbles kept it below 30 after that to be on safe side.

I think you made the right choice, The sirrus looks very light and fast but maybe not so sturdy as the Trek. Wishing you many happy miles on it.
 
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John Ponting
Location
Herts
Thanks Banjo.

Comments in a recent bike mag suggested the Valencia has same frame as FX but different components. I could be riding the same as you if the shop had one in stock to satisfy my impulse shopping.

Absence of front pannier mounts means I may investigate the Tubus Smarti but no rush right now.
 

sgw

New Member
Looks lovely John. Far sportier than I expected. In fact, it would look and probably work real well with drops should you ever fancy.

Reminds me of some of the bikes that pass me on the hills. Not sure what they are as I don't see them for long.
Think I might break it with my HGV loads though. I better stick with my Scaracen tank. ;)
 
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John Ponting
Location
Herts
Looks lovely John. Far sportier than I expected. In fact, it would look and probably work real well with drops should you ever fancy.

Reminds me of some of the bikes that pass me on the hills. Not sure what they are as I don't see them for long.
Think I might break it with my HGV loads though. I better stick with my Scaracen tank. ;)


I have a Trek 1.2 - lower head tube but otherwise quite similar although 1.2 has 700x25 at present compared with FX 700x32.

I think my first trip may have to be a hub & spoke camping trip with the MG called in to action. Boot is about the same as a full set of panniers, only 2 seats with limited room inside an looks a bit silly with a bike rack hanging off the bootlid.
 
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