A Crime yes or no ?

[tamiya]

Is Trespass a criminal offence up there?

 

[Lozz360]

Is Trespass a criminal offence up there?

Trespass is not a criminal offence anywhere unless it is aggravated trespass.

 

[MichaelW2]

Was he proceeding in a Northerly direction?

 

[Andy in Germany]

Wouldn't that be a traffic offence at worst, rather than a crime?

 

[steveindenmark]

Failing to comply to a temporary road traffic sign. I assume he just rode round the signs saying the motorway was closed. I doubt if the police are doing anything about it and rightly so. But they can hardly say "We are doing absolutely sod all about it", Can they?

 

[Pat "5mph"]

The Kingston Bridge was closed last Sunday late AM....

Let's organize a CC Ecosse motorway ride, next year when the Great Scottish run is on, all roads shut

 

[Bobby Mhor]

Let's organize a CC Ecosse motorway ride, next year when the Great Scottish run is on, all roads shut

Who needs the roads closed?
Just follow this dude

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Trespass is not a criminal offence anywhere unless it is aggravated trespass.

Thought it was in Scotland?

 

[User6179]

Thought it was in Scotland?

Pretty much go where you want in Scotland.

 

[Deleted member 26715]

Pretty much go where you want in Scotland.

Clearly I misunderstood,

 

[mjr]

No offence. While the road is officially closed through a proper closure order it ceases to be a highway for duration of that order. Were he in a motor vehicle he'd then commit the offence of driving other than on a highway, but he's not in a motor vehicle so no specific offence applies.

Were the road open, then the usual motorway rules would apply, and he would be committing an offence.

Now I'm not sure about motorways because I don't deal with them (because we can't cycle on them) but is "a proper closure order" for them a Works Traffic Regulation Order or a Temporary TRO? Violating those normally carries a fine of up to £1000, according to the boilerplate on our locals.

Of course, many are unenforceable against cycling because they routinely fail to sign the closure at entry points from cycleways, but that's hopefully irrelevant for a motorway which shouldn't have any entry points from a cycleway not already covered by motorway signs (such as a cycleway crossing a motorway entrance). We're lucky that our cycle route signs and motorway signs are different colours... oh wait, no, that's France, Belgium, the Netherlands...

 

[mjr]

Who needs the roads closed?
Just follow this dude

Meh, amateur. I often cycle in the middle lane of a local 9-lane A road, which has the twin features of being legal and the fastest way to turn right

 

[Leaway2]

My mate and I used to cycle up and down the M62 (now part of the M60) in Worsley, when it was being built in the 60's. It was a long hill down past Wardley woods. It was great.
OK its a fair cop, you've got me banged to rights.

 

[Leaway2]

I bet you're glad you've got that off your chest.
I'm surprised you've been able to live with yourself.

I am seeking absolution from the CC community.

 

[Mr Celine]

No offence. While the road is officially closed through a proper closure order it ceases to be a highway for duration of that order. Were he in a motor vehicle he'd then commit the offence of driving other than on a highway, but he's not in a motor vehicle so no specific offence applies.

Were the road open, then the usual motorway rules would apply, and he would be committing an offence.

A motorway is a 'special road' which only specific classes of traffic are permitted to use. So does the motorway cease to be a special road and become an all purpose one because of a 'road closed' sign?