A pavement parking odyssey
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DCLane
Found in the Yorkshire hills ...
- Location
- Dewsbury, West Yorkshire
Notification from the police - action is being taken against the driver/owner.
Maybe they will learn. Maybe not.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
Sadly probably not criminal: Community Infrastructure Levy was brought in shortly before Localism, so your elected district councillors have pretty wide ability to set whatever conditions that they like on CIL payout. Those conditions don't have to have any foundation in law. They only need not to break any laws, which is a far lower bar.
As long as they do that, if your community doesn't like how little infrastructure they get to support all the new homes, then it's the fault of the entire district for electing those councillors, but good luck getting enough people to vote in local elections on local issues and commitments about something as niche as CIL, rather than what they think of the current PM or MPs.
It could be worse. Your district could have re-imposed minimum parking requirements in 2022 like Norfolk did, which has strangled new businesses in the villages (no new business can afford the land for its shop's car park, nor the distance that puts it away from neighbouring shops and passing customers) without doing anything to reduce pavement parking. Why be surprised they're farking up other community infrastructure too?
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
As I mentioned in another post, my local car-brainiacs took advantage of this change to reintroduce minimum car parking requirements for homes and businesses outside of urban core areas. That seems to have had no effect on pavement parking. Even people living in homes with more spaces than cars routinely leave one on the pavement to make it slightly quicker and easier to drive to the corner shop than having to get it off the drive and back on... and every shop also now has to provide a minimum huge car park if built since the rule change, which also halved the minimum amount of cycle parking many shops must provide, and even that isn't enforced effectively, with applications to provide less cycle parking allowed and even useless "cosmetic" bike racks allowed. You know the sort of thing: it's a fun shape, but you can't lock a typical bike to it properly. Strange how the car parking spaces are always dull rectangles and never amusing shapes that few cars can fit in, isn't it?
What's needed is the London anti-pavement-parking law expanded to the rest of the country. Without that, the pavements in new build estates will be used for car parking no matter whether car parking spaces are limited, required or whatever. Car parking probably should be limited for other reasons (flooding due to the higher runoff rate, heat island effects, and so on) but it's basically irrelevant to pavement parking at the moment.
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Drago
Legendary Member
- Location
- Suburban Poshshire
Id also introduce a £1000 tax surcharge for vehicles stored overnight on the highway that aren't in a marked parking bay.
I don't get to use the street outside my house to store stuff, and Imdknt see why motorists should do so.
I don't get to use the street outside my house to store stuff, and Imdknt see why motorists should do so.
Windle
Über Member
- Location
- Burnthouses
I've heard an old phrase from somewhere back in time 'if you don't have a field, don't buy a cow'.
Piece Hall?
classic33
Leg End Member
South Gate of, aye.
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Drago
Legendary Member
- Location
- Suburban Poshshire
Short of mandating it as illegal, but a significant step in the right direction...
https://www.highwaysmagazine.co.uk/news/dft/powers-councils-ban-pavement-parking
A lot of carncils will be straight on that to raise some shekels, and good luck to them.
https://www.highwaysmagazine.co.uk/news/dft/powers-councils-ban-pavement-parking
A lot of carncils will be straight on that to raise some shekels, and good luck to them.
Windle
Über Member
- Location
- Burnthouses
It may be a bit presumptuous, but I think the driver will no longer be 'under instruction' and the instructor will no longer be in a job.
mjr
Comfy armchair to one person & a plank to the next
- Location
- mostly Norfolk, sometimes Somerset
That's what I thought, but it was pointed out to me in another forum that councils already had the power to use Traffic Regulation Orders to restrict pavement parking and few used it. 🤔
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Drago
Legendary Member
- Location
- Suburban Poshshire
TROs are tricky, as while it can be done that's not what the legislation was designed for so the process are clunky, supposedly, hence it rarely being used.
Something in the dusty redesses of my memory suggests they have to apply them street by street, a separate process for each, when it comes to parking, rather than one fort an entire zone, area or borough. Or maybe I dreamed it. There is some impediment that though that makes it not simple.
Edit - yes, they have to go through the process street by street with a TRO. I guess thats a lot,of hassle and legal expense to do a whole town that way.
Something in the dusty redesses of my memory suggests they have to apply them street by street, a separate process for each, when it comes to parking, rather than one fort an entire zone, area or borough. Or maybe I dreamed it. There is some impediment that though that makes it not simple.
Edit - yes, they have to go through the process street by street with a TRO. I guess thats a lot,of hassle and legal expense to do a whole town that way.
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