Abolish the two abreast cycling rule

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Stumbled across this today..... And we thought the press were hostile in the UK.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/op.../9144961/Abolish-the-two-abreast-cycling-rule

My favourite quote
" But you only have to look at the tenuously narrow lane configurations on many roads to conclude that a 1.5m distance between cyclists and motorists is impractical. Such a requirement would have the perverse result of forcing motorists to routinely cross the centre line to keep clear of cyclists"


As if that is a bad thing.
 
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Peter Armstrong

Über Member
Is there a law to this? Is it acceptable?
 

gaz

Cycle Camera TV
I had someone once tell me that I was riding 4 abreast and I wasn't allowed to do that.
Funny thing is I was passing a cyclist who was passing a cyclist who was passing another cyclist :laugh:
 

deptfordmarmoset

Full time tea drinker
Stumbled across this today..... And we thought the press were hostile in the UK.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/op.../9144961/Abolish-the-two-abreast-cycling-rule

My favourite quote
" But you only have to look at the tenuously narrow lane configurations on many roads to conclude that a 1.5m distance between cyclists and motorists is impractical. Such a requirement would have the perverse result of forcing motorists to routinely cross the centre line to keep clear of cyclists"


As if that is a bad thing.
Hasn't he simply described a normal overtaking manoeuvre?
 

Linford

Guest
I feel like there is a punchline missing. Obviously it should have a Neigh or two in it.

Deadly serious. We have a few horses, and have ridden them out on the roads many times.

Some horses are more nervous of passing traffic than others, some riders are more nervousof passing traffic than others. My sister was on a horse 30 years ago whuch was struck by a heating oil lorry. It nearly cut the horse in half and died before a vet got there. My sister got away with her life, but was badly affected by it. The truck dtiver didn't start braking until after he had hit the horse
 

Leodis

Veteran
NZ are a bit slow like that.
 

Saluki

World class procrastinator
Deadly serious. We have a few horses, and have ridden them out on the roads many times.

Some horses are more nervous of passing traffic than others, some riders are more nervousof passing traffic than others. My sister was on a horse 30 years ago whuch was struck by a heating oil lorry. It nearly cut the horse in half and died before a vet got there. My sister got away with her life, but was badly affected by it. The truck dtiver didn't start braking until after he had hit the horse
Your poor sister! I really feel for her. I know it was 30 years ago but it must still upset her even now.

I often ride 2 abreast. My younger horse is not quite as bombproof as the old lad. Never had a problem with passing cars though as we try to tuck in where we can.

The NZ lot really need to get a grip.
 

Whiskey88

Well-Known Member
Don't get me started on the Kiwis!

I lived out there for over 2 years. Seriously, if you think cycling infrastructure and acceptance is poor in the UK, you don't know how (comparatively) lucky we are.

From what I can remember about my time in Auckland, there was only 1 main segregated cycle lane, which runs alongside the North-Western Motorway (SH16). If you want to take your bike from the main part of the city to the North Shore (across the harbour), the options were a roughly $20 ferry or a 7-8 hour ride around the harbour inlet, despite there being a bridge crossing much closer that would get you there in under 30 minutes.

The drivers truly despise all cyclists. I have never felt aggression as vicious as when riding on Auckland's streets, particularly Dominion Road between Mt Eden and Mt Roskill and Mt Eden Road south of the volcano. All the press are against cyclists and cycling, further fuelling drivers' anger. Even my flatmates, who worked at the same environmental organisation as myself, did nothing but scorn me when I bought my bike.

I had no option but to constantly take primary position in the lane. If you take secondary, drivers WILL squeeze you out or just force you into the door zone, which is even more full of idiots that don't look than in the UK.

There is a glimmer of hope - Christchurch. The main city on the South Island which was devastated by a serious earthquake (which I felt, on the other side of the damn island!) in 2011. A lot of the infrastructure is in tatters right now whilst the rebuild is ongoing, but it's a flat city and their buses even have collapsible racks on the front bumper that can hold 3 non-folding bikes! An idea that London could definitely learn from. It's still affected by very poor drivers (the standard across NZ is generally quite a bit poorer than the UK), but they're on the right track.
 

Hill Wimp

Fair weathered,fair minded but easily persuaded.
Nothing against fellow cyclists riding 2 abreast if its safe to do so but I do wish some of them would engage their brains as they merrily pedal along chatting and realise that it does not mean they have to stay in that position as they hug me, the solo cyclist, going round a blind bend.

If it isn't safe don't do it numpty.
 

Hill Wimp

Fair weathered,fair minded but easily persuaded.
Might get shot down for this, but I hate when cyclists ride two abreast when on a relatively busy road. I don't think it's too much to ask for one to nip infront of the other when the road is busy

Thank heavens I'm not the only one. There appears to be an increasing attitude amongst some cyclists that actually they own the road.
 
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