Aches and pains...

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97_CAH

Regular
Location
Wiltshire
Recently started riding MTB again, Nothing too serious mainly just riding down the local canal and around the park.
Not pushing a fast pace, nice and relaxed for the most part.
Around 30 mins in my back in particular has started to ache and I get a excruciating cramping type pain in my lower right leg.
Ive had a bike fit done at my local bike shop and the bike is the correct size for me. Before the aches and cramps happen the bike is comfortable and enjoyable to ride. I can push through the back ache but the cramping instantly stops me in my tracks. The last time it happened, I had to get my wife to come and pick me and the bike up (she was not amused :rolleyes: :laugh: )

Has anyone else experienced something similar when starting to ride again? Any advice?
 
Location
Loch side.
It takes a long time for the body to get used to new ways of doing its thing. Take it slower but be consistent. Consider some supplementary exercises like stretching and strenthening. Fitness is a combination of stamina, strength and flexibility and yours is not up to par for what you're trying to do.
 

sevenfourate

Devotee of OCD
Most of us have aches and pains when resting 🤣 Let alone riding !

Suggestions ? Get some Big-boy pants with more padding 😜

Seriously - cramping. Are you properly hydrated before and during rides. At first especially: are you taking a snack with you ?

The niggles will go - but this cycling lark is generally quite hard. It doesn’t get a whole lot easier. You just get faster with more and more practice.

Enjoy !
 

wafter

I like steel bikes and I cannot lie..
Location
Oxford
Assuming the fit is correct try stretches and dead hangs to sort the back out. Also bear in mind that modern MTBs have got longer and lower, which might be more trying for a less-flexible back than alternatives.

As above the cramping sounds like it's rooted elsewhere - so ensure you're hydrated and are getting enough sodium / potassium / magnesium.

Cramping can also be a sign of poor liver function and various other things, if you'd like something else to worry about :smile:
 

fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
If you haven't ridden for years then it's going to hurt. I'd ride a bit more often but limit it to say 30 minutes, before you start to hurt. How often are you now riding ? If it's once a week, you will continue to hurt from doing nothing.
 
Cramp can be caused by many things such as:
Bike fit issues
Dehydration issues
Lack of sodium replenishment if you are a sweater.

Back pain can be caused by many things such as:
Bike fit issues
Lack of flexibility/tight muscles
Weak core muscles
Adapting to increase/new exercise.
 

midlandsgrimpeur

Senior Member
Recently started riding MTB again, Nothing too serious mainly just riding down the local canal and around the park.
Not pushing a fast pace, nice and relaxed for the most part.
Around 30 mins in my back in particular has started to ache and I get a excruciating cramping type pain in my lower right leg.
Ive had a bike fit done at my local bike shop and the bike is the correct size for me. Before the aches and cramps happen the bike is comfortable and enjoyable to ride. I can push through the back ache but the cramping instantly stops me in my tracks. The last time it happened, I had to get my wife to come and pick me and the bike up (she was not amused :rolleyes: :laugh: )

Has anyone else experienced something similar when starting to ride again? Any advice?

When you say bike fit, do you mean they put you on some bikes, took a few measurements and set you up? Or do you mean you had a full on bike fit with a physiological assessment carried out by an accredited bike fitter? Nothing wrong with the former, 99% of us will have a bit of basic fitting like that.

The leg pain could well be connected to the back ache. It is most probably a basic fit issue exacerbated by you not having ridden for a while. Back problems are often too high a saddle/too long a reach related problems. I would start making some incremental changes to things like saddle height and reach to see if that makes a difference.
 

GarthW

Member
Location
SoCal
I have well over 100,000 miles' riding experience (and it would be perhaps close to 200,000 if I hadn't quit riding for 13 years), and still, part of getting back in shape every spring, after the cold, short, wet winter days put a lid on my riding for a few months, is reconditioning my rear to painlessly handle being on the saddle for hours, and getting my neck, shoulders, feet, etc. back in shape. It's not only about getting my strength and endurance back. When people complain about the saddle, or ask for saddle recommendations, I tell them that until you get your "undercarriage" in shape, there probably won't be any comfortable saddle (and also, what works well for one person may never work for another).

Fit is not a simple thing though, even though FitKit and possibly others have tried to make up a system where the fitter just takes the rider's measurements and adjusts the bike for those, without regard to past injuries, age, experience, inherited musculoskeletal traits, etc.. Do note that the ideal fit will indeed change as you gain experience, such that what felt best one year may not be ideal a year or two later. It's good to listen to others' experience and advice, but know that some of that free advice will be worth exactly what you paid for it, while other advice will definitely be worth serious consideration, as you experiment and get to know your own body, bike, and what constitutes a good fit.

I will add a comment here that "geometry" is not just about the position of the rider. Two different bikes could put the rider in exactly the same position, yet one handles great and the other handles terribly, because of head-tube angle, fork rake, stem length, and more. Small people are often put on 700c wheels (I can only speak for road bikes, not MTB) just for more tire choices and availability; but they cannot get good handling on 700c. When our son was racing in Juniors, we saw so many kids put on 700c's, and it was like they were sitting down between the wheels instead of over the bike, and they'd weave and they obviously didn't have good command of the bike. A friend, a very small woman, was riding a tiny carbon-fiber Calfee with 650c wheels, and needed a new rear wheel, and couldn't find any, so she thought she had to have a custom frame builder make her a frame with 700c's. She traveled hundreds of miles for this, got measured, and got a frame made. Her position on it is good and comfortable, but she says the handling is terrible. Use 650c for short people, even 24" for kids. Again, this is for road bikes. I am not knowledgeable in MTBs.

As mentioned by others, cramping can be from simply not being in shape yet, or from dehydration, or from failing to replace the electrolytes you lose in your sweat. I came across a web page years ago telling how much of various things we lose in each liter of sweat. The list was long; but the major things were sodium and potassium. I calculated from that that I should put at least half a teaspoon of sea salt in each quart of water, and at least an eighth of a teaspoon of Morton's Lite salt, which is half potassium chloride, in each quart of water. I've been putting 50% more than that in, and when I started that, it spelled the end of the cramps, except one time I got way behind on my drinking. You can weigh yourself before and after a ride to see if you've been drinking enough. If you never peed during the ride, each two pounds lost means you should have drunk another quart, 32 ounces. Don't be afraid of the weight of all the water you need to carry slowing you down. Dehydration will slow you down more than the weight of the water does.
 
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