I shall not wholly die
After life?
- Thread starter Milzy
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I shall not wholly die
It's really you isn't it?My next door neighbour (aged 86 next week)wants to come back as a cat but only if he lives with Mr M and myself.
Turdus philomelos
Guru
- Location
- West Lothian
MontyVeda
a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
- Location
- Lancaster... the little city.
That's the 'leap of faith' that a belief based in science needs. I struggle to understand how something comes from absolutely nothing... but in my tiny mind it's marginally more likely than 'god made it'. Everything after the B of the Bang makes a lot more sense to me.
They didn't 'have' to form, they just did. Things happen. There need not be a 'why'.
Slick
Guru
All very scientific.
Slick
Guru
I must have been off sick that day.
There are many theories as to why it happened and something may have existed before the Big Bang. Universes may be being created all the time, some are unstable and collapse immediately, others like ours become stable and structured. Although 'all the time' is meaningless, as is the idea of before
jonny jeez
Legendary Member
- Location
- Chislehurst, Kent, UK
Your smell will certainly linger for a bit.
numbnuts
Squire
- Location
- Gone over the hill and far away
God created the “Big Bang” now prove me wrong 
shouldbeinbed
Rollin' along
- Location
- Manchester way
As I get older I get more conflicted on the idea of a supreme being etc. Organised religion is bunkum IMO, it's a 4000 year old CCTV system despots used to keep the slaves & subjects in check, the notion of an all seeing, interventionist, vengeful God casting sinners into hell or rewarding the righteous that falls out of that is a load of guff too, but some form of divine watchmaker or external kickstarter????
This kind of stems from a couple of ghost stories that I believe true, one from my then 6-7 yo only son in our old end terraced house.
He started talking one November about the man that came to see him when he was in bed at night, who was nice, sat on his bed and told him bedtime stories and then went away again *he'd then come right up to my/wife's face and say "shhhhh, it's a secret" in a very intense way. (he's 26 and still crap at secrets)
He could describe perfectly an older gentleman who dressed in a herringbone 3 piece suit, tie, brown shoes with lots of dots on them (Oxford brogues is our guess) and what sounds like a trilby hat with a ribbon band. He'd no experience of people dressing like this not had ever alluded to/drawn anything similar, we asked at school and it rang no bells. We did our research AFAP.
This kept going for a few weeks then stopped until next November when it started again and stopped.
Shortly after a neighbour from the adjoining street that near as looked over his bedroom window was in hospital being nursed by my mother in law, they got chatting and MiL twigged on she lived close to us & said so, neighbour then asked if it was us basically and if the little boy had said anything about night time visitors.
Yes and our ghost story was recounted by MiL. Neighbour then said that she used to babysit for a few before us occupants and their child had the exact same experience as son 1, right down to the clothes. Their parents had got a spiritualist in and 'spoken' to this guy, he and his daughter apparently had lived in the house during the war, daughter had fallen pregnant unmarried and father nowhere on the scene once he knew, but she had either lost the baby near term or it was stillborn and they hid the remains out of the social stigma of it. He always felt guilty and came back to see the kids living in the house to be sure they were happy. Apparently if we as parents stood in the room in November and reassured him everything was OK and he could go back to the light he would be happy and not come back. We did and he didn't.
Next November we were woken by newish neighbours next next door little girl screaming like a banshee in the middle of the night.
Long story short, she'd gone for a wee and the same guy had popped up on the landing to say hello to her. We told them the story, they reassured him and neither of our kids saw anything again there.
Not a clue what really happened and we had gutted that house, torn down the outbuildings and never found anything remotely skeletal so??? But so many different bits of completely independent but totally similar info and descriptions and from people I (got to) know well and trust does have me believing something was occurring.
I hedge my bets now on dead = dead but none of my late blood relatives or otherwise departed loved ones have ever dropped in to say Hi from the afterlife.
This kind of stems from a couple of ghost stories that I believe true, one from my then 6-7 yo only son in our old end terraced house.
He started talking one November about the man that came to see him when he was in bed at night, who was nice, sat on his bed and told him bedtime stories and then went away again *he'd then come right up to my/wife's face and say "shhhhh, it's a secret" in a very intense way. (he's 26 and still crap at secrets)
He could describe perfectly an older gentleman who dressed in a herringbone 3 piece suit, tie, brown shoes with lots of dots on them (Oxford brogues is our guess) and what sounds like a trilby hat with a ribbon band. He'd no experience of people dressing like this not had ever alluded to/drawn anything similar, we asked at school and it rang no bells. We did our research AFAP.
This kept going for a few weeks then stopped until next November when it started again and stopped.
Shortly after a neighbour from the adjoining street that near as looked over his bedroom window was in hospital being nursed by my mother in law, they got chatting and MiL twigged on she lived close to us & said so, neighbour then asked if it was us basically and if the little boy had said anything about night time visitors.
Yes and our ghost story was recounted by MiL. Neighbour then said that she used to babysit for a few before us occupants and their child had the exact same experience as son 1, right down to the clothes. Their parents had got a spiritualist in and 'spoken' to this guy, he and his daughter apparently had lived in the house during the war, daughter had fallen pregnant unmarried and father nowhere on the scene once he knew, but she had either lost the baby near term or it was stillborn and they hid the remains out of the social stigma of it. He always felt guilty and came back to see the kids living in the house to be sure they were happy. Apparently if we as parents stood in the room in November and reassured him everything was OK and he could go back to the light he would be happy and not come back. We did and he didn't.
Next November we were woken by newish neighbours next next door little girl screaming like a banshee in the middle of the night.
Long story short, she'd gone for a wee and the same guy had popped up on the landing to say hello to her. We told them the story, they reassured him and neither of our kids saw anything again there.
Not a clue what really happened and we had gutted that house, torn down the outbuildings and never found anything remotely skeletal so??? But so many different bits of completely independent but totally similar info and descriptions and from people I (got to) know well and trust does have me believing something was occurring.
I hedge my bets now on dead = dead but none of my late blood relatives or otherwise departed loved ones have ever dropped in to say Hi from the afterlife.
MontyVeda
a short-tempered ill-controlled small-minded troll
- Location
- Lancaster... the little city.
doesn't work like that.God created the “Big Bang” now prove me wrong
No, you have to prove that you are right, that's how science works.God created the “Big Bang” now prove me wrong
And if God did create the Big Bang, then the entire Bible is wrong.
smutchin
Cat 6 Racer
- Location
- The Red Enclave
God created the “Big Bang” now prove me wrong
The Big Bang happened 13.8 billion years ago. God was invented a few thousand years ago.
numbnuts
Squire
- Location
- Gone over the hill and far away
OK prove it that God does NOT exist
shouldbeinbed
Rollin' along
- Location
- Manchester way
Prove it firstGod created the “Big Bang” now prove me wrong
