AirZound equivalent for a Bike path?

[Andy_R]

Without restriction??
Direct Cut 'n' paste from gov website
Controlling your dog in public
1. Overview
It’s against the law to let a dog be dangerously out of control anywhere, eg:

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  • in a public place

Out of control
Your dog is considered dangerously out of control if it:

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  • injures someone
  • makes someone worried that it might injure them

So yes, I'm informing them that I'm there and giving them time to get their dog under control. If I'm out running with my dog he's under control. Hardly ever on lead, but then he's trained to be under 'close control' as well as 'distance control'. A dog doesn't have to be foaming at the mouth or attacking to make me think it's going to do something that may cause injury.

Sorry to take the wind out of your sails, but unless you are a warranted officer of the law, or equivalent, you can't make demands. Which is what my post said.Pedestrians are allowed on the path without restriction. Cyclists are not. And as for cutting and pasting direct from yougov, then that last section has acres of room for misinterpretation (makes someone worried that it might injure them). If you are worried that you might injure yourself by falling off your bike because of the dog, then is it the dog that is out of control, or the cyclist who is going too fast and thus out of control for the given situation? Personally, I always slow right down on a path when approaching a dog walker, even if the dog is on the lead. You don't know the dog, and you don't know how it's going to react to you on your bike. Airzound on a path is just arrogance and ignorance.

 

[Andy_R]

Highway code, rule 1, pedestrians should leave the road side of the path clear.

But they're not required to know that, so be polite, ring the Bell and ask to pass if needed.

ermm....pedestrians where possible should avoid being next to the kerb with their backs to traffic, is how it's worded. Which is different.

 

[Shut Up Legs]

So should I just sit behind them then?

Not trying to be rude, but perhaps you're over-emphasising the problem? I use a mix of shared paths and roads in my commutes, and only once or twice in years of commuting have I ever been stuck behind a pedestrian with no safe way to overtake, and even then it was only temporary (a minute at most).

 

[400bhp]

Not trying to be rude, but perhaps you're over-emphasising the problem? I use a mix of shared paths and roads in my commutes, and only once or twice in years of commuting have I ever been stuck behind a pedestrian with no safe way to overtake, and even then it was only temporary (a minute at most).

My guess is it's close to a college/Uni. There's a college at the end of my road. Sometimes it's a bit tricky maneuvering around the college kids when my 5 year old is cycling to school.

 

[gambatte]

Sorry to take the wind out of your sails, but unless you are a warranted officer of the law, or equivalent, you can't make demands. Which is what my post said.Pedestrians are allowed on the path without restriction. Cyclists are not. And as for cutting and pasting direct from yougov, then that last section has acres of room for misinterpretation (makes someone worried that it might injure them). If you are worried that you might injure yourself by falling off your bike because of the dog, then is it the dog that is out of control, or the cyclist who is going too fast and thus out of control for the given situation? Personally, I always slow right down on a path when approaching a dog walker, even if the dog is on the lead. You don't know the dog, and you don't know how it's going to react to you on your bike. Airzound on a path is just arrogance and ignorance.

 

[gambatte]

Sorry to take the wind out of your sails, but unless you are a warranted officer of the law, or equivalent, you can't make demands. Which is what my post said.Pedestrians are allowed on the path without restriction. Cyclists are not. And as for cutting and pasting direct from yougov, then that last section has acres of room for misinterpretation (makes someone worried that it might injure them). If you are worried that you might injure yourself by falling off your bike because of the dog, then is it the dog that is out of control, or the cyclist who is going too fast and thus out of control for the given situation? Personally, I always slow right down on a path when approaching a dog walker, even if the dog is on the lead. You don't know the dog, and you don't know how it's going to react to you on your bike. Airzound on a path is just arrogance and ignorance.

And I said you got it wrong. There’s no demand. I ASSUME they’re unaware of my presence and are reasonable enough to want to bring their hound under close control when a cyclists are passing. The ‘zounds used to alert them to my presence.
I know I appreciate an early warning when out with mine – better than a last minute rush.

BTW – I’ve never had a negative reaction. Just smiles “good days” and “thank yous”. Not what you’d expect from something thats “just arrogance and ignorance.”?

 

[jarlrmai]

An airzound from a good distance to a dog walker is probably okay, closeish to a person using headphones and you are going have a one startled and possibly angry person.

 

[fossyant]

Airzounds arent acceptable at all. Whats wrong with excuse me, thanks and cheers.

 

[jarlrmai]

Headphones

Still Airzound is not the solution.

 

[Arjimlad]

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/...m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_r=03T35QMCQFVS51KA77SC

 

[Flying Dodo]

Wilkinsons sell those for about £3.50.

 

[Crankarm]

I fully understand that pedestrians have priority. I am always slow on bike paths and cycle at no faster than walking pace near pedestrians or around corners or areas I cannot see. But what if there is not a lot of space to pass them? I currently do not own an AirZound and use my voice - sometimes it's effective and sometimes it isn't as I have to ask repetitively. I started this thread to try and see if there was any kind of alternative similar thing to an AirZound but quieter - seeing as there is quite a lot of foot-traffic on the paths. I fully understand that pedestrians have priority, all I was asking for is if there is anything quieter than an AirZound.

You can adjust the volume on an Airzound.

 

[Ticktockmy]

Just to complicate the matter, as I understand it, Footpaths along side roads are termed as footways, and come under different rules to footpaths which do not run alongside Roads , Also I gather that if a footway or footpath is split into Cycleway and footway/footpath by a central white line then both halves should be treated as being subject to different rules, and it against the rules for cyclists to use the footway/footpath and pedestrians should not encroach onto the cycleway side. Here in Crawley we have such paths, and it a nightmare as pedestrians like to walk on the red or green painted cycleway halves. I normally correct the matter by using my best sergeant major voice and shout out "coming By" when I am 50 feet or so away, failing that i repeat the same when I have gotten behind them, normally works, as to using an AirZound, I would be happy if it was used some distance away so as to give peeps time to react, and not have heart attacks or scare the crap out of there children or more importantly the dogs they seem to let wander all over the footway/cycleway..

 

[summerdays]

Just to complicate the matter, as I understand it, Footpaths along side roads are termed as footways, and come under different rules to footpaths which do not run alongside Roads , Also I gather that if a footway or footpath is split into Cycleway and footway/footpath by a central white line then both halves should be treated as being subject to different rules, and it against the rules for cyclists to use the footway/footpath and pedestrians should not encroach onto the cycleway side. Here in Crawley we have such paths, and it a nightmare as pedestrians like to walk on the red or green painted cycleway halves. I normally correct the matter by using my best sergeant major voice and shout out "coming By" when I am 50 feet or so away, failing that i repeat the same when I have gotten behind them, normally works, as to using an AirZound, I would be happy if it was used some distance away so as to give peeps time to react, and not have heart attacks or scare the crap out of there children or more importantly the dogs they seem to let wander all over the footway/cycleway..

As far as I know on a shared path with a dividing line, I don't think there are any restrictions on where a pedestrian can walk. I may be wrong in this belief.

 

[Poacher]

As far as I know on a shared path with a dividing line, I don't think there are any restrictions on where a pedestrian can walk. I may be wrong in this belief.

You're right.
This fact, when combined with the advice in rule 1 (my italics and bold):

"Pavements (including any path along the side of a road) should be used if provided.
Where possible, avoid being next to the kerb with your back to the traffic.
If you have to step into the road, look both ways first.
Always show due care and consideration for others."

leads to some interesting behaviour along Daleside Road in Nottingham. There's a segregated cycle/foot path, with the pedestrian side next to the road.
Over 90%* of pedestrians walk on the cyclist side of the line, avoiding walking next to the kerb, regardless of which direction they're walking.

* Observation over more than 10 years using this route; it was resurfaced about 18 months ago, and the white line hasn't yet been reinstated completely, although the signs still indicate segregation.