And the worst road users are.....

[Linford]

There surely has to be a bid here for people on bikes and motorbikes who overtake stationary vehicles in a queue that have a large gap in front of them at full speed, without considering that there might be a reason for the gap.

Several times now I've seen the village idiot on a scrambler motocross dirt bike nearly come to greif when people are letting others out of the carparks.

Though more generally, malicious obedience to the highway code to the deprivation of your and others safety is a pretty haenous crime in my book. Using the road strictly to the letter of the Law and using the road safely are not always fully overlapping segments in the ven diagram of life.

You use extreme caution when filtering past other vehicles which are on top of junctions (always expect the worst and hope for the best, and at least you can stop in good time) . We had this a couple of weeks ago with some helmet cam footage from a CC member.

 

[donnydave]

You should try driving a BMW for a while. People will try just about anything to avoid letting you out at junctions......

The solution here is an e-type, I hired one for a couple of days a few years ago and it was absolutely brilliant. Other road users were falling over themselves to give way to us, it was unforgettably fantastic, especially as some other like-minded motoring enthusiast had hired a lambo murcialago and was driving round the same villages as us at the same time, no one let him in and we saw him having to bump up a grass verge to let some unimpressed duffer through. Hehe.

 

[Linford]

The solution here is an e-type, I hired one for a couple of days a few years ago and it was absolutely brilliant. Other road users were falling over themselves to give way to us, it was unforgettably fantastic, especially as some other like-minded motoring enthusiast had hired a lambo murcialago and was driving round the same villages as us at the same time, no one let him in and we saw him having to bump up a grass verge to let some unimpressed duffer through. Hehe.

My friend loaned me a Lotus Elise for a couple of days, a few years ago, and my kids asked to be run up to school in it. When I dropped the one off, the teacher on gate duty made a point of shutting it to stop me from driving out until he decided it was 'OK'. Whe I picked them up on the odd occasion on my motorbike (the one in my avatar), they were all falling over themselves to take a look at it, and had no problem with me brining it in (kids did usually walk to school though, and only took it cos they kept telling their mates their dad had a motorbike)

 

[Mile195]

When I have to drive (because I avoid it most of the time), I don't tend to drive right up the arse of the car in front, especially if the traffic is moving slowly - sometimes I just let a gap develop. And then sometimes people pull in to that gap, which might annoy me. But I tend to take the view that "we're all just trying to get somewhere", and to be honest, if I'd been sat at the junction and the situation was reversed I'd probably have done the same thing.

When roads are busy you have to drive assertively or you don't get anywhere. Normal rules on giving way and waiting for a gap have to go out the window a bit.

You use extreme caution when filtering past other vehicles which are on top of junctions (always expect the worst and hope for the best, and at least you can stop in good time) . We had this a couple of weeks ago with some helmet cam footage from a CC member.

As for filtering, I'm pretty careful both on the bike and the motorbike - I always ride like someone's definitely about to come out of the gap. I nearly took out a woman on a zebra crossing some years ago while filtering past a bus. I'd like to avoid the same thing happening again...Even if it does slow me down.

 

[Linford]

[QUOTE 2324343, member: 45"]Ignore linfy, he's just looking for something to have a dig at me about.[/quote]
Only that I see you regularly criticising the standards of others, but refuse to acknowledge that your own may sometimes be wanting. This thread is case in point.

 

[shunter]

I think there is a point to be made for a situation where the car does not slow to allow you to enter the road because he has noticed the driver in the car behinds looks like he is not paying attention and would possibly go into the back of him.

 

[theclaud]

Hmmm , if you are in general agreement with me , then maybe I'm wrong?

You might be onto something here...

 

[400bhp]

You should try driving a BMW for a while. People will try just about anything to avoid letting you out at junctions. I personally do not fit the usual BMW sterotype; I am courteous, do not tailgate, indicate when required to do so, do not drive agressively and whenever possible let people into the trafic flow. But, sadly, whenever people see the badge they seem to assume that I am just another cock in a BMW and treat me accordingly (unless, so it seems, they are another BMW / AUDI driver). Sadly, I have to admit that the majority of BMW / AUDI drivers do have an over inflated sense of self-importance which shows in their driving habits, and fully earns them their reputation. So it seems that I am the unfortunate victim of the "tar them all with the same brush" mentality. Still I love the car though. It is a superb piece of engineering.

Yeah yeah, that's what they all say.

 

[400bhp]

My friend loaned me a Lotus Elise for a couple of days, a few years ago, and my kids asked to be run up to school in it. When I dropped the one off, the teacher on gate duty made a point of shutting it to stop me from driving out until he decided it was 'OK'. Whe I picked them up on the odd occasion on my motorbike (the one in my avatar), they were all falling over themselves to take a look at it, and had no problem with me brining it in (kids did usually walk to school though, and only took it cos they kept telling their mates their dad had a motorbike)

Not sure it was the car the teacher had issues with.

 

[Linford]

[QUOTE 2324398, member: 45"]I criticise you, for two reasons:

1. You're always wrong
2. It's fun

...but that's about as far as it goes, other than sharing my (always balanced and measured) views on situations when invited.


You've already demonstrated once that you're misreading my posts on this thread. Perhaps you'd like to have another read of the rest...[/quote]

You have also demonstrated that you are a bit too selective with your quotation from the Highway code

General rules (159 to 161)
159

Before moving off you should

• use all mirrors to check the road is clear
• look round to check the blind spots (the areas you are unable to see in the mirrors)
• signal if necessary before moving out
• look round for a final check.

Move off only when it is safe to do so.

 

[400bhp]

So, who here doesn't agree with letting people out from side roads, or from entering side roads( from the opposite side of the road)?

 

[Linford]

Not sure it was the car the teacher had issues with.

They didn't at all have that problem when I turned up with the bike....it must their loathing for people posing in sporty cars..

 

[Linford]

[QUOTE 2324456, member: 45"]Yup, did all that. What's your point?



edit: I did feel a bit guilty saying that you're always wrong, but we're now 1 post post-claim and you're on 100% so far, so I'm not feeling quite so bad.[/quote]

If your actions had not forced him to make some sort of emergency braking, I very much doubt he would have got his arse out. Your spatial awareness seems to be a bit off. Demonstrated on your failed bike test, and this time around. Why didn't you go for your bike test again ?

 

[400bhp]

They didn't at all have that problem when I turned up with the bike....it must their loathing for people posing in sporty cars..

Nah - your bike simply overrides you.

You're 2nd in the pecking order.

1. Bike
2. Linfy
3. Lotus

 

[donnydave]

I think there is a point to be made for a situation where the car does not slow to allow you to enter the road because he has noticed the driver in the car behinds looks like he is not paying attention and would possibly go into the back of him.

Sort of connected to the above, this morning I slowed from about 10mph (speed of queue) to walking pace to let someone waiting at a side road. I thought Mr side road was turning left to join our queue but actually he went right, just as I noticed there was a motorbike filtering from behind me There's very little chance mr side-road in could have seen the motorcyclist as there was a big lorry and a few large vans directly behind me. I thought mr bike is unlikely to have been aware of mr side-road for the same reason. Luckily I had been so pre-occupied with being polite to mr side-road I had inadvertently wandered across my lane slightly and blocked mr bike.

He wasn't best pleased and pointed to his mirrors after he passed me even though I had just done him a favour, although if I was paying more attention to my mirrors instead of planning todays good deed for society I would have carried on and left mr side road waiting and mr bike would have continued unlbocked

There was a thread a few days ago about flashing headlights, I don't flash my lights, I just give people a gap and its up to them to decide if its safe which sounds nice but obviously in practice it doesn't always work as in this situation giving a gap was the equivalent of flashing your lights and mr side road assumed it was ok, effectively it was down to me as gap-giver to decide if it was safe