Another bike ID thread (Pseudo-Battaglin?)

I_Nonchev

Member
Hello from a new Bulgarian forum member :smile: After many years of tinkering with MTBs, I decided to take on another project and build myself a (kind of) vintage road bike. So today I got this frame, shown in the pictures below, with some weird "Giovanni Battaglin" decals on it and some unknown (to me) logo on the head and seat tubes. Also, it has a "B" embellished on the main tube lug and on the seatstay caps, which looks suspiciously like the Bianchi's "B". The frame has an Italian BB thread and, as you can see, some wild paintwork.

I have never seen a Battaglin frame with such features - it lacks the well known logo with the hunched down racer guy and also the braze-on flag on the top tube. And the decals are nowhere near those I've seen on the most popular Battaglin models. So, most likely, it has nothing to do with The Man of Steel himself or his company, apart from the fact, that some enthusiast has decided put his name on it.

Also, it's pretty much on the heavy side - 3.54 kg (7.8 lbs), including frame, fork, BB and headset.

The dropout spacing is 125 mm, so I guess it's mid 80's or something. On the BB there is the size measurement (57) and also some serial number - B663 (if it makes any sense).

So, yeah, the frame was kinda cheap (70 euro), so it's mine anyway, whatever it is. But just out of curiosity it will be interesting to know if anyone has come across something like that.

Thanks in advance :smile:

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SkipdiverJohn

Deplorable Brexiteer
Location
London
7.8 lbs puts it in the territory of a Touring frame made from a heavy duty version of one of the butted steel tubesets. If it was made of Reynolds steel, which it probably won't be in this case as Italians tended to favour Columbus, it would likely be a 531ST tubeset.
 

si_c

Guru
Location
Wirral
Looks to me like a very good quality frame judging from the lugwork and the brazed cable guides on the bottom bracket. Judging from the paint work and logos on the lugs it may well be a Battaglin - probably 1980s as mentioned above - but it's definitely been repainted at some point, and not particularly well I don't think. Someone definitely made an effort, but the detailing around the lugs and on the logos is a bit poor.

Either way I wouldn't worry about it particularly, that will be a very nice bike to ride once you've got it built up. I did exactly the same as you when I first wanted a road bike - I bought a €100 frame on ebay and then built it into a great bike. I did spend a bit getting the frame repainted though in my case as the original paint was pretty poor.

Good luck building your bike up and welcome to the forum!
 
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I_Nonchev

I_Nonchev

Member
Looks to me like a very good quality frame judging from the lugwork and the brazed cable guides on the bottom bracket. Judging from the paint work and logos on the lugs it may well be a Battaglin - probably 1980s as mentioned above - but it's definitely been repainted at some point, and not particularly well I don't think. Someone definitely made an effort, but the detailing around the lugs and on the logos is a bit poor.

Either way I wouldn't worry about it particularly, that will be a very nice bike to ride once you've got it built up. I did exactly the same as you when I first wanted a road bike - I bought a €100 frame on ebay and then built it into a great bike. I did spend a bit getting the frame repainted though in my case as the original paint was pretty poor.

Good luck building your bike up and welcome to the forum!
Thanks for the info and for the welcome!

I will surely keep you updated as the project goes on. I will not throw crazy amounts of money on it, though. I just want a somewhat decent randonneur. Even the paint is not that bad, when you look at it long enough :smile: But I will ditch the stickers for sure, lol.
 
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I_Nonchev

I_Nonchev

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It looks a lot like the Bianchi Campione d'Italia. As far as I can see (correct me if I'm wrong), the Alloro has the cable guide brazed on the upside of the chainstay, whlie the Campione has it on the downside (like mine). Also, mine has bottle mount bosses on the down tube and on the seat tube (like the Campione), while the Alloro has only one bottle mount (on the down tube). That's what I could tell form various photos I found.

Anyway, thanks for your help, guys :smile:
 
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