Another Manc cyclist down..

Schneil

Veteran
Location
Stockport
Isn't that the 50mph motorway section?
Crikey, poor woman. Hope she recovers.
 

sabian92

Über Member
Why is it always "a cyclist collided with a car" as if it's implying the cyclist is always at fault?

Either way, hope she pulls through. Sounds nasty.
 

shouldbeinbed

Rollin' along
Location
Manchester way
@sabian. I'm having that argument with the MEN on Twitter, they seem to think they've written it in an impartial manner.

@400 spot in, I'd always assumed as an M class road, we weren't allowed to use it, not that I would anyway, there's a line between right to ride and endangering yourself.
 

sabian92

Über Member
@sabian. I'm having that argument with the MEN on Twitter, they seem to think they've written it in an impartial manner.
To quote Jim Royale: My arse!

That's about as impartial as it couldn't get. Tossers. She may very well have been at fault but nobody knows that yet.
 

shouldbeinbed

Rollin' along
Location
Manchester way
To quote Jim Royale: My arse!

That's about as impartial as it couldn't get. Tossers. She may very well have been at fault but nobody knows that yet.
Their last reply is that they are only reporting what the police told them. It seems to be a stock answer, same when someone else asked what the gender had to do with the story & why not report the driver's. AKA the Kelvin MacKenzie Hillsbourough defence. Apparently journalists and editors have no free will to neutralise a report, I'm going to query it with the Police press office.

Whatever the circs, even if not illegal(???) It's an odd place to be riding a bike. I hope she recovers
 

Curb

Über Member
Location
Manchester
Hmm sounds bad, hope she's OK too

It's not clear exactly where it happened - the underpass referred to is definately a 'no go' for cyclists...

Always a bit sobering to hear about serious incidents that are close to home - I commute via that roundabout that is is 'over' the underpass on my return from work.

(Good to see some of us addressing the reporting style as well, thanks,
- let's hope eventually the media will see that they have a responsibility in choosing how to portray cyclists and incidents they are involved in, especially where there may be serious injuries)
 

davefb

Über Member
Surely its,

"a cyclist and a car collided" <-- impartial , "a cyclist collided with a car" <-- not impartial , "a car collided with a cyclist" <-- not impartial..

I've noticed this in a number of reports, so perhaps it is the police, but that doesn't excuse it..

at the underpass, blimey, thats (M) , that's pretty scary and definately not a place for a cyclist :-/
 
Not sure the underpass does, there's quite a cyclepath network on top of it getting you across the roundabout , albeit primarily running the City centre/Stretford axis.
Unless they went under it I can't see how the report would work, the road rises for the whole cycle path. I avoid the cycle path, and use the roundabout there regularly, it's not a dangerous cycle path though, and I can't understand how a cyclist would end up on the underpass. (You can't miss the signs either: http://goo.gl/maps/JzIDf)

That's the one, however cyclists would be on the slip roads past the top of the image. They're big slip roads.
 

shouldbeinbed

Rollin' along
Location
Manchester way
Hmm sounds bad, hope she's OK too

It's not clear exactly where it happened - the underpass referred to is definately a 'no go' for cyclists...

Always a bit sobering to hear about serious incidents that are close to home - I commute via that roundabout that is is 'over' the underpass on my return from work.

(Good to see some of us addressing the reporting style as well, thanks,
- let's hope eventually the media will see that they have a responsibility in choosing how to portray cyclists and incidents they are involved in, especially where there may be serious injuries)

The M.E.N. are adamant that their reporting is neutral and impartial and are getting grumpy about it claiming collided with is a standard journalistic phrase ( like 'The Truth' is a standard journalistic headline maybe) they are also blaming the police for the report but the Manchester Gazette have chipped in saying that they supplied the story to MEN who like to 'jazz things up'
 
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