Another near assault caught on YouTube!

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smiorgan

New Member
Woah - sympathies to the chap who ran into this trouble. I can't see what would have started that.

Not a near assault, it is common assault

This is any act by which a person intentionally or recklessly causes another to apprehend immediate unlawful violence. Such an act must be with the intent being calculated in that persons mind to cause apprehension or fear in the mind of the victim.

Also, some of us probably think we're fit, hard persons of action who would rise to an event with similar vigor - but the truth is that unless you're trained for this sort of thing the thug will have the upper hand (because they've "trained" for it - if they're prepared to get out of a car in broad daylight and threaten a stranger, they've been in a few fights themselves).

I'm a big chap and I do all sorts of boxing and combatives, and I still reckon there's a good chance I would freeze up.
 

cd365

Guru
Location
Coventry, uk
Oh what a hard man! :tongue: From my experience the ones to watch aren't the ones that need to show everyone "how hard they are" but the quiet ones!

I have known quite a few people who like to show everyone how hard they are because they get a kick out of being thought that way, and they truly are hard! But I also know hard people people who would only fight when pushed.

You cannot tell from someone's mannerisms if they can fight or not!
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
I have known quite a few people who like to show everyone how hard they are because they get a kick out of being thought that way, and they truly are hard! But I also know hard people people who would only fight when pushed.

You cannot tell from someone's mannerisms if they can fight or not!

All I will say is in my experience if someone makes to throw a punch but doesn't his heart is not in it.
 

subaqua

What’s the point
Location
Leytonstone
All I will say is in my experience if someone makes to throw a punch but doesn't his heart is not in it.

sometimes the brain actually regains control over the redmist before the punch gets swung. there have been plenty of times the brain has reminded me that i will be bubbas best friend if the punch happens just as i have started the process of taking a swing.

thankfully I am a bit older and wiser now and just laugh at "thugs" when they try it on. if that doesn't work then i get loud and can look very very nasty.
 

Melonfish

Evil Genius in training.
Location
Warrington, UK
Woah - sympathies to the chap who ran into this trouble. I can't see what would have started that.

Not a near assault, it is common assault

This is any act by which a person intentionally or recklessly causes another to apprehend immediate unlawful violence. Such an act must be with the intent being calculated in that persons mind to cause apprehension or fear in the mind of the victim.

Also, some of us probably think we're fit, hard persons of action who would rise to an event with similar vigor - but the truth is that unless you're trained for this sort of thing the thug will have the upper hand (because they've "trained" for it - if they're prepared to get out of a car in broad daylight and threaten a stranger, they've been in a few fights themselves).

I'm a big chap and I do all sorts of boxing and combatives, and I still reckon there's a good chance I would freeze up.

I was going to say, him grabbing the OP was section 39 assault clear cut case.
i'm in the same boat as you, i'm not a small lad but hell, i was scared from the bloody video, an afterthought is my aikido training but hell i think i'd have frozen up there.

to the OP, if you don' report this to the police i think i will, that is clear cut assault m8, please please report it immediately, you will undoubtedly save the next poor soul from this horrible man, think back to how scared you were when he grabbed you and think about the next person who he may actually be hitting...
pete
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
sometimes the brain actually regains control over the redmist before the punch gets swung. there have been plenty of times the brain has reminded me that i will be bubbas best friend if the punch happens just as i have started the process of taking a swing.

thankfully I am a bit older and wiser now and just laugh at "thugs" when they try it on. if that doesn't work then i get loud and can look very very nasty.

True. In this case I have a feeling he expected the cyclist to run cycle away and then when he didn't felt he had to do something to protect his macho image. I might be wrong of cause (It does happen, especially on days with Y in them :smile: )
 

Angelfishsolo

A Velocipedian
to the OP, if you don' report this to the police i think i will, that is clear cut assault m8, please please report it immediately, you will undoubtedly save the next poor soul from this horrible man, think back to how scared you were when he grabbed you and think about the next person who he may actually be hitting...
pete

+1
 

BentMikey

Rider of Seolferwulf
Location
South London
I was going to say, him grabbing the OP was section 39 assault clear cut case.
i'm in the same boat as you, i'm not a small lad but hell, i was scared from the bloody video, an afterthought is my aikido training but hell i think i'd have frozen up there.

to the OP, if you don' report this to the police i think i will, that is clear cut assault m8, please please report it immediately, you will undoubtedly save the next poor soul from this horrible man, think back to how scared you were when he grabbed you and think about the next person who he may actually be hitting...
pete


FYI, the OP and the videographer are not one and the same person. If you want to speak to kmcyc, best to comment on the video directly.
 

doog

....
That bloke should get identified easily enough, even the CPS would struggle not to proceed on that evidence. Appreciate that the OP isnt the victim but I really hope the victim does report .
 

moralcrusader

Active Member
That bloke should get identified easily enough, even the CPS would struggle not to proceed on that evidence. Appreciate that the OP isnt the victim but I really hope the victim does report .

I have my doubts about the CPS, but given that the scenario and video is almost exactly the same as that incident in Manchester (?) earlier in the year, you'd hope they'd consider it.
 

Sheffield_Tiger

Legendary Member
Woah - sympathies to the chap who ran into this trouble. I can't see what would have started that.

I can...I think

It's that effect when people shout out of moving vehicles, but in reverse (the effect, not the direction of travel)

I *think* that "You're on camera" translated as "You're a self-gratification artist" - or along those lines

This is not to excuse..just my theory on why it escalated
 
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