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Norm

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Excellent! :thumbsup:

On the door zone, I'd just add that the width (you put minimum 1.5m) is the width of a car door plus the width of your handlebars plus a safety margin.

Thanks, Cheeky Comrade :biggrin: (And for some reason, the download stopped at 5:44, wouldn't go any further)
 
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BSRU

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Excellent! :thumbsup:

On the door zone, I'd just add that the width (you put minimum 1.5m) is the width of a car door plus the width of your handlebars plus a safety margin.

Thanks, Cheeky Comrade :biggrin: (And for some reason, the download stopped at 5:44, wouldn't go any further)

Thanks for the suggestion, I think YouTube is just being flaky, again, I have just watched it and it showed the whole video.
 

Origamist

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I think that's a v good effort. However, I'd intercut it with helmet cam film of what you're talking about - road positioning, gutter riding, door zones etc (otherwise it feels like a school blackboard!).
 
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I think that's a v good effort. However, I'd intercut it with helmet cam film of what you're talking about - road positions, gutter riding, door zones etc (otherwise it feels like a school blackboard!).

I did think about doing that but considered that some people's attention span is not too long these days and it would make the video much longer.

My plan is to make a second one using the same section headers with example videos, I have about three months of video footage saved and need to sort through some of it to find relevant high quality footage.
 

Origamist

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I did think about doing that but considered that some people's attention span is not too long these days and it would make the video much longer.

My plan is to make a second one using the same section headers with example videos, I have about three months of video footage saved and need to sort through some of it to find relevant high quality footage.

4 or 5 film sequences: 10 - 13 sesc each, trim the current captions/graphics. It would make it more visually interesting and complement the graphics/guidance.

If you're doing another vid (as a compendium piece) it's not as important, but you might not engage people sufficiently with your opening vid to attract them to your second effort.

Anyway, I think you've done well.
 

Norm

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4 or 5 film sequences: 10 - 13 sesc each, trim the current captions/graphics. It would make it more visually interesting and complement the graphics/guidance.

I was thinking about the idea of putting in some examples. Interesting, BSRU, that you mentioned attention span as I would find it a lot easier to watch the words and examples for 4 minutes than I found it to watch just the words for 3 minutes. TBH, I watched it in three chunks as it was.
 
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I was thinking about the idea of putting in some examples. Interesting, BSRU, that you mentioned attention span as I would find it a lot easier to watch the words and examples for 4 minutes than I found it to watch just the words for 3 minutes. TBH, I watched it in three chunks as it was.

It's easy enough to add in the video footage, I will give a go and see how it looks.
 

Matthew_T

"Young and Ex-whippet"
4 or 5 film sequences: 10 - 13 sesc each, trim the current captions/graphics. It would make it more visually interesting and complement the graphics/guidance.

If you're doing another vid (as a compendium piece) it's not as important, but you might not engage people sufficiently with your opening vid to attract them to your second effort.

Anyway, I think you've done well.


Also try to add a bit of a comical side to it, or a theme tune. Like Gaz545 has done with his Silly Cyclists videos. I have recently been playing around with Windows Moviemaker and have come across some good editing techniques.
 
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Also try to add a bit of a comical side to it, or a theme tune. Like Gaz545 has done with his Silly Cyclists videos. I have recently been playing around with Windows Moviemaker and have come across some good editing techniques.

The comical part is for anyone that continues to watch it after it has apparently finished.

Do not want any comedy in the main part as I feel it would detract from the information.

It has music, I was not keen on adding it as YouTube puts adverts in if it's copyrighted material but I believe it needed it. I will also upload the final version to Vimeo.
 

jonny jeez

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Personally I would NOT add footage. the vid works really well as it is and captures your attention purely because it is not just another cyclist video. I think adding video footage can be so subjective that I think it may loose the viewer as they start to critique the video (or worse still dislike it).

The music is spot on, very interesting and gives it a sense of mystery...almost like the secrets of the cycle world are being unveiled.

The transition of some words is too fast, the door zone ones if I recall correctly.

I'd loose the joke at the end, it spoils the tone and I cant watch the last 40% as it keeps hanging after the joke.

One last thing...scale...the door zone section seems to use a different scale to the rest...or that is one massive car parked there...ore perhaps its using the size of a minor road as opposed a major...either way it didn't look right for some reason..also the captions repeated themselves here.

Nice vid though, really liked it and watched it all with interest (well the bits that You tube would let me that is) It captured my attention throughout.

PS do you mind if we add a link to the vid in the "essential guide for commuters"
 

GTTTM

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I'd lose the joke at the end as well, tbh I only kept watching at the timer told me there was another 3 minutes left. If you don't want to use video footage, perhaps some "stills" of some of the things you mention for example the artifical lane narrowing etc doesn't have to be a full screen shot - more of a visual to go with it.

Take a photo of someone cycling past an open car door etc, just simple stuff so people go "oh!!!" A lot of people do work on visuals only and would struggle with text only - it's different styles of "learning" - (or taking things in). And you risk alienating/losing viewers due to there being very little visual.

Good stuff though - can recommend Power Director if you want to do some cool stuff
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BSRU

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PS do you mind if we add a link to the vid in the "essential guide for commuters"

If you wait a day or two I will upload the same video with no joke on the end, just for CC.

I will also upload another one with the video added, so people have the choice but my main one will be the current one with the spelling mistake fixed.
 
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