Any on here also run a Motorbike to work?

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mark st1

Plastic Manc
Location
Leafy Berkshire
The OP should also factor in the price of passing C.B.T about £60-80 as a minimum or Direct Access which seems to be well over £500 now with laws changing in early January i believe ? not sure what they are but i should imagine its another money making exercise somehow. So doubt that will be cheap.
 

screenman

Squire
I would suggest a lot of people get killed and injured each year on bikes that do not do those speeds. In all honesty I have never been within 70mph of the top speed of mine. So speed of bike is not the reason people have collisions or fall of them, it is down to lack of skill.
 

mark st1

Plastic Manc
Location
Leafy Berkshire
Yes ok i agree so how are the new laws going to affect this ? As im not aware of any of the changes just heard on the radio about the licence becoming harder to obtain from 2013.
 

Crankarm

Guru
Location
Nr Cambridge


Errr ....... yes they did as I remember when I was a nipper watching the evening news in shock and dread that the Met Office was pedicting that within 30-50 years the UK would be plunged into a very cold and long Ice Age. Strange that we had had a series of very cold winters with very heavy snow for weeks on end in the late 70s and early 80s. Of course their predictions have failed to materialise, so it was all bollox, as their predictions are now.
 

mark st1

Plastic Manc
Location
Leafy Berkshire
Q Under the 3rd EU driving licence directive coming in on January 19th 2013, if I take my 125cc motorcycle test when I am 21, how soon can I ride a big bike of unlimited cc and power?
A
Following the Progressive access scheme motorcycle training and test after January 19th 2013 you would be limited to 125cc until your are 23, another test at 23 you can then ride upto 47bhp motorcycle. At 25 with another test you would be able to ride any size motorbike. HOWEVER at 19+ you could take the 400cc test (limiting you to 47bhp) and 2 years later take the 600cc test. Or when you are 24 you could take the Direct Access Scheme (DAS) test, on successfully passing that, you to ride any sized machine. Under this situation, we do not believe you would need to re-take the motorcycle theory test becuase when you pass any of the tests you had a valid theory test certificate and had successfully passed your motorcycle test. This means you hold a full but restricted motorcycle licence.

Not to confusing then :wacko:
 

mark st1

Plastic Manc
Location
Leafy Berkshire
Well yes, the tuition is about making them safer. Take a read of this article and give an opinion of the facts as presented (the speed quoted was actually 115mph, and not 155mph as stated in the report) http://www.bikinglondon.com/2012/12...n-bike-test-run-after-pulling-115mph-wheelie/


That is bad imo i see the point of making the changes to re strict new riders from jumping on such machines. Changes do seem to be a good idea then in that respect. Doesnt stop someone who hasnt ridden for 10 years but still a full licence holder jumping on one though if they could afford it.
 

Linford

Guest
Q Under the 3rd EU driving licence directive coming in on January 19th 2013, if I take my 125cc motorcycle test when I am 21, how soon can I ride a big bike of unlimited cc and power?
A
Following the Progressive access scheme motorcycle training and test after January 19th 2013 you would be limited to 125cc until your are 23, another test at 23 you can then ride upto 47bhp motorcycle. At 25 with another test you would be able to ride any size motorbike. HOWEVER at 19+ you could take the 400cc test (limiting you to 47bhp) and 2 years later take the 600cc test. Or when you are 24 you could take the Direct Access Scheme (DAS) test, on successfully passing that, you to ride any sized machine. Under this situation, we do not believe you would need to re-take the motorcycle theory test becuase when you pass any of the tests you had a valid theory test certificate and had successfully passed your motorcycle test. This means you hold a full but restricted motorcycle licence.

Not to confusing then :wacko:


New rules for that wouldn't have helped the doctor in my link, however, it is not clear if he was exceeding the limit at the time of impact, but either way, he was travelling too fast for the conditions. He had only been riding on a full licence for 7 months. Bikes with this sort of performance should be off limits for riders unless they have had experience of similar for a reasonable amount of time. I put nearly 6,000 road miles on a GSXR1000 (K6) over a season, and got bored of it in the end. Even chugging it resulted in exceeding every limit in a matter of seconds which resulted in short shifting all the time. Might as well been on a Harley-Davidson after a couple of weeks.
 

Linford

Guest
That is bad imo i see the point of making the changes to re strict new riders from jumping on such machines. Changes do seem to be a good idea then in that respect. Doesnt stop someone who hasnt ridden for 10 years but still a full licence holder jumping on one though if they could afford it.

I would argue that someone who has previously ridden a performance bike 10 years ago would rightly feel a bit wobbly for a short while, but they would have an appreciation from the off for the performance they deliver - caveat, a 1000cc bike like the BMW is a world apart from the 1000cc bikes of 25 years ago (which are actually slower than my current 600, and have handling which is a lot more iffy)
 

mark st1

Plastic Manc
Location
Leafy Berkshire
Nice bike you had sir. I may be miss reading the new rules but it seems that someone over 24 can still do a Direct Access course lasting only a week ? and its now being called Module 1 and Module 2 Module 1 contaning the CBT and Theory test. And Module 2 containing the full test and your age seems to determine what size bike you are able to ride.
 

mark st1

Plastic Manc
Location
Leafy Berkshire
I would argue that someone who has previously ridden a performance bike 10 years ago would rightly feel a bit wobbly for a short while, but they would have an appreciation from the off for the performance they deliver - caveat, a 1000cc bike like the BMW is a world apart from the 1000cc bikes of 25 years ago (which are actually slower than my current 600, and have handling which is a lot more iffy)

Yes your right (you never lose it and all that) however as in the link you posted the unfortunate Doctor lasted less than 2 hours and as the accident investigator said it was more a lack of knowledge of the area (as in the double bend) rather than speed that caused the accident.
 
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