Any Runners On Here??

[Legs]

Four months of exclusively aerobic training improved his pace at that HR by over a minute (so 8:15 to 7:15).

But who knows what he was doing in the water and on the bike during that 4 month period?

Then, after a year of doing mostly aerobic training, his pace at 155bpm was 5:20

It is clear from the text that he was including interval sessions after that four months of exclusively aerobic training.

You will recall from the linked article that the intervals it describes are

"...around15-30 minutes of hard high heart rate effort total. This means that if you are going to the track to do intervals do about 5k worth of speed during the entire workout. Less than that and the physiological effect is not as great. More than that and you just can't maintain a high enough effort during the workout to maximize our benefit. You want to push your interval making each one a higher level of intensity and effort than the previous one. If you reach a point where you cannot maintain your form any longer, back off the effort or even call it a day. That is all your body has to give."

Who knows how many such sessions he was doing, or specifically how they were structured?

Even allowing for some element of sales spin, I don't seriously doubt the veracity of the claim.

I agree that everyone's experience will not match his.

Maybe I’m cynical, but many athletes, particularly around that era, had revolutionary ‘training plans’ from infamous ‘coaches’ that turned out to be something else altogether!

 

[ivegotabike]

Maybe I’m cynical, but many athletes, particularly around that era, had revolutionary ‘training plans’ from infamous ‘coaches’ that turned out to be something else altogether!

It is a possibility I am prepared to entertain.

But, absent any evidence to prove it one way or another, it is just a possibility.

 

[Milzy]

I’ve been doing 5k’s before work. Usually have a big hill in there. I go steady and hammer up the hill.
On rides I feel I have more leg torque up climbs. All though my FTP is crap compared to yesteryear I seem to power up punchy climbs better. It could be in my head but running will strengthen the body up to some extent if not weight training.

 

[Tenkaykev]

I’ve been doing 5k’s before work. Usually have a big hill in there. I go steady and hammer up the hill.
On rides I feel I have more leg torque up climbs. All though my FTP is crap compared to yesteryear I seem to power up punchy climbs better. It could be in my head but running will strengthen the body up to some extent if not weight training.

Indeed it will. My coach would say " hills are your friends "🤔. I noticed that doing hill reps really improved my core. I also learned to run " over " hills and not " up " them by keeping the effort going for 20+ metres past the top.

 

[ivegotabike]

I’ve been doing 5k’s before work. Usually have a big hill in there. I go steady and hammer up the hill.
On rides I feel I have more leg torque up climbs. All though my FTP is crap compared to yesteryear I seem to power up punchy climbs better. It could be in my head but running will strengthen the body up to some extent if not weight training.

As I am very new to running, I have been reading some stuff about the training theory.

Hills feature significantly in Lydiard's training methods that came to prominence following the results of NZ athletes in the 1960s

A good summary I found of it, including videos showing the specific techniques mentioned, is here

https://marktosques.com/running/lydiard-hills/

 

[Hicky]

Had a couple of weeks off the running due to holidays, went back to parkrun on Saturday.

So much tougher than the last one, had to walk a couple of times up the hills, hopefully can now start getting a few more regular runs in to get back on track.

Still enjoyed it, even it if was the hilliest and slowest one I've done so far.

Away again this weekend and have already planned a detour to a parkrun nearby 😁

Parkrun tourism 🤣
A quick one that’s local -Alex park Moss side…rapid flat but because of this you have lots of PR tourists, usually fast ones looking for a pb.
Hard hilly ones, Lyme park or Watergrove(North Rochdale)-hilly ie prob 400m of flat and that’s it -also cobbles, hardcore trail(mud) and usually cold/windy however stunning views.

 

[Hicky]

I’ve recently put more miles into my legs, my EarPods are on their way out as I drop them so often. I’ve used my Ms Sanag bone conducting headphones, they were decent but I had to have them at more or less I’ll blast otherwise all I can hear is passing cars which is like to avoid(volume)….id like some feedback from those who’ve used open ear headphones and bone conducting ones….any recommendations?
Not too expensive as I drop things often 🫣🤣

 

[Tenkaykev]

I’ve recently put more miles into my legs, my EarPods are on their way out as I drop them so often. I’ve used my Ms Sanag bone conducting headphones, they were decent but I had to have them at more or less I’ll blast otherwise all I can hear is passing cars which is like to avoid(volume)….id like some feedback from those who’ve used open ear headphones and bone conducting ones….any recommendations?
Not too expensive as I drop things often 🫣🤣

While I don't run with music ( apart from a short spell facing down the demons during an ultra back in the 80's ) I do listen to Podcasts while walking. If there's traffic around then my Airpods pro are outstandingly good. Otherwise what i would certainly purchase again are my Shokz bone conduction headphones. About a month ago I purchased some open ear headphones ( Anker V20i ) which were a good price and do work really well. I tested sound leakage by having my wife use them while I stood next to her and there was no sound leakage that I could detect. The Anker ones also have individual ear loops so they are very secure.
I'd check out the Ajnker Soundcore as my first choice.

 

[Hicky]

While I don't run with music ( apart from a short spell facing down the demons during an ultra back in the 80's ) I do listen to Podcasts while walking. If there's traffic around then my Airpods pro are outstandingly good. Otherwise what i would certainly purchase again are my Shokz bone conduction headphones. About a month ago I purchased some open ear headphones ( Anker V20i ) which were a good price and do work really well. I tested sound leakage by having my wife use them while I stood next to her and there was no sound leakage that I could detect. The Anker ones also have individual ear loops so they are very secure.
I'd check out the Ajnker Soundcore as my first choice.

Oddly I've seen these(we have an Anker bluetooth speaker) and am about to watch a review on them so thanks for the feedback!