I see lot's of people swearing by them, but they look painful to me through novice eyes & they don't seem to have a saddle with an anti mumb nuts groove in it...I will be touring so this is an important decision...I need to be able to looki my arse in the eye and say that i did the right thing http://www.kinetics.org.uk/html/b17_professional.shtml On htis site they have one that they claim is pre broken in...sounds good but is it? I have 4 weeks to go before I tour...can it be broken in in time...maybe I should jus tget one and see? ...all I know right now after two 40 mile rides in two days is that my arse hurts and the gel saddle that the ad claimed to be 'as comfortable as a sofa' isn't up to the job ,,but should I get a B17, a B17 ready worn in, B72 light weight touring also sounds good to me. I read a review that said they can be broken in after about 150miles is that true? Do they deed any special stem fittings ...I am clueless...I have a daws galaxy 2007...should fit right?