Are people really that thick?

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fossyant

Ride It Like You Stole It!
Location
South Manchester
SO - nice hot weather and lots of people will be taking the caravan away for the weekend

to a caravan site which are generally not to be seen with lots of shade
in a metal box

Nah

It's generally a lot cooler at the coast though ! We fled (for once) sunny hot Manchester, a few weeks ago. The coast was a good 5 degrees cooler.
 

Vapin' Joe

Formerly known as Smokin Joe
Not everyone can get out of the sun and sit around drinking iced drinks. Not everyone works in an air conditioned office. Some of us have to work whatever the weather.

This^^

Factory work and outdoor jobs are a different ball game to a pen pushers life.
 
It’s about this time my mum would have a bucket of water handy. Apparently it worked for dogs equally well.

My dog was a bit on the thick side

I got back one day in this sort of weather and she had decided to carry her water bowl into the middle of the lawn
(she stayed in the garden when I was at work - it was her safe place - and she had full access to a large garage)

so - naturally - she had managed to spill it all

after that I used to leave her 2 bowls and a large full bucket that she couldn;t carry around!!
 

Psamathe

Über Member
Some years ago mid-summer in Luxor, Egypt I decided I was going to visit Valley of Kings but was not going to take a "tour". And less crowded I decided Valley of Queens first. So I took ferry across the Nile and walked ... past air conditioned tour busses parked beside road with people lying on stretchers .. and it was good (only a few miles from where boat dropped me off). But walking back suddenly realised I'd completely stopped sweating (not a good sign), so slowed my pace a bit and after a bit local motorcyclist stopped to chat and gave me a lift back to a busier road where I thought best take a taxi on to Valley of Kings.

But generally I love the heat. Cycling in Central/Eastern France a few years back in their 40℃ heat wave and I was still cycling though did tend to stop be 13:00. Cycling along you could feel the hear radiating from the tramac bit like sitting in front of one of those old bar radiant headers.

Ian
 

roubaixtuesday

self serving virtue signaller
Cycling along you could feel the hear radiating from the tramac bit like sitting in front of one of those old bar radiant headers.

Some central European roads have temperature signs alongside which show both air temperature (say 35C) and road surface temperature (say 55 C). Not sure why; perhaps some tyres are badly affected at high temps?
 

Psamathe

Über Member
Some central European roads have temperature signs alongside which show both air temperature (say 35C) and road surface temperature (say 55 C). Not sure why; perhaps some tyres are badly affected at high temps?
Not seen those but could it be tammac/surface melting of getting soft? Even in UK sometimes areas of road can get "sticky" and you can hear it riding over it, looks more reflective (mostly happens on bends and junctions).

I was heading east Doubs valley and canal on to German border. Every campsite reception started having jugs of iced water and glasses on reception. France seems much more aware of dangers of heat after a few years before than a horrendous number of mainly older people died in heatwave at home causing much national embarrassment (I'm useless with dates but 2003?) and ever since they seem much more aware and act.

Ian
 

Drago

Legendary Member
Some central European roads have temperature signs alongside which show both air temperature (say 35C) and road surface temperature (say 55 C). Not sure why; perhaps some tyres are badly affected at high temps?

When things get silly hot the solvent separates out of the asphalt and it can start to get relatively slippery. Perhaps it's to do with that?
 

presta

Legendary Member
In my cycling days I never shied away from any weather, because when you're on tour you need to be able to cope with whatever weather you're given.
Not everyone works in an air conditioned office.
The lab where I worked was 40C one summer's day, not surprising really when all the instruments amount to a 1-2kW fan heater running all day long.
There are many things people can do to mitigate the effects of heat for sure.
Like not wearing black clothing in summer.
Some chemotherapy drugs can make the skin more sensitive to sunlight, increasing the risk of sunburn
Amiodarone's like that. Fortunately when I was on it temporarily it was over winter.
It links to an article saying that the writer remembers 1976 and it was magnificent.
In 1976 I went from Kings Cross to York on an Inter City train with broken aircon, and double glazed sealed windows, not the sort of thing you can plan for, or anticipate in advance.
Some years ago mid-summer in Luxor, Egypt I decided I was going to visit Valley of Kings but was not going to take a "tour". And less crowded I decided Valley of Queens first. So I took ferry across the Nile and walked ... past air conditioned tour busses parked beside road with people lying on stretchers .. and it was good (only a few miles from where boat dropped me off). But walking back suddenly realised I'd completely stopped sweating (not a good sign), so slowed my pace a bit and after a bit local motorcyclist stopped to chat and gave me a lift back to a busier road where I thought best take a taxi on to Valley of Kings.
When Levison Wood walked the length of the Nile for his Channel 4 series, his walking companion died of heatstroke.
 

icowden

Veteran
Location
Surrey
What was previously a "hot summers day" is now designated a "Class 1 murder Deathkill heat Slaughter alert", and still the idiots overdo it.

If you look at temperature records,
  • in the 70s hottest temperatures ranged from 28 to 35.9 with two years being above 34 and 6 years below 31.
  • in the 80s hottest temperatures ranged from 29.4 to 34.4 with only 1 year being above 34 and 6 years below 31
  • in the 90s hottest temperatures ranged from 29.7 to 37.1 with two years above 34 and only 2 years below 31
  • in the 00s hottest temperatures ranged from 30.1 to 36.5 with one year being above 34 and only 2 years below 31
  • In the 10s hottest temperatures ranged from 31.7 to 38.7 with six years being above 34 and no years below 31
  • In the 20s hottest temperatures range from 32.2 to 40.3 with 3 of those years being above 34.
What was previously a hot summers day was a hot summers day. What is now a hot summers day is potentially life threatening. Our houses have not changed - they are designed to keep heat in. We are not built to cope with heat like a Mediterranean country.

In 1976, 1990, 1995, 2003 and 2013 we had heatwaves. We have now had heatwaves every year since 2018 and more of them.
In 1976 we had 16 consecutive days of heatwave with the highest June temp ever recorded of 35.6c. June 2025 has been hotter if you look at average temperatures.
 
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