Are we being forced to go electric?

[ClichéGuevara]

I said infrastructure not utilities……

Charge points are utilities, and all of the things I mentioned are part of an infrastructure that has to be national to work effectively.

 

[vickster]

They do sound mad, unlike a zzzzzzzzzzz from an equally fast leccy car.
It is as it is - I want a small leccy 4/5 seater town car please someone - like an Aygo with a battery. PLEASE. The ICE would be used for hauling, the little thing we'd charge at home and bob about, but needs to seat 4. Not a big ask. More please. The Zoe has gone silly money !

Up? Mii? But they’re about 20k… bargain might be 10k second hand in 10 years

 

[jowwy]

Charge points are utilities, and all of the things I mentioned are part of an infrastructure that has to be national to work effectively.

And the council were i live have provided 8 charging facilities….i live here, do you????????

 

[ClichéGuevara]

And the council were i live have provided 8 charging facilities….i live here, do you????????

You do know that 'the council' don't have money of their own don't you?

 

[jowwy]

You do know that 'the council' don't have money of their own don't you?

They were provided with grants to do so, as i stated in my original post….did you not read properly???

The proof of a council providing electric charging points,

 

[ClichéGuevara]

They were provided with grants to do so, as i stated in my original post….did you not read properly???

its no wonder arguments happen so easily in this place and people leave.

The proof of a council providing electric charging points,

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I never said they didn't. You seem to be having an argument all on your own, and you seem to be losing that.

 

[vickster]

Where do people think these grants provided by central government to councils come from? Not from thin air, nor altruistic wealthy philanthropists for sure…

 

[fossyant]

Up? Mii? But they’re about 20k… bargain might be 10k second hand in 10 years

£20k for a tin box... good god.. no need cheaper.

 

[jowwy]

Where do people think these grants provided by central government to councils come from? Not from thin air, nor altruistic wealthy philanthropists for sure…

Who said it came from central government????

 

[ClichéGuevara]

Where do people think these grants provided by central government to councils come from? Not from thin air, nor altruistic wealthy philanthropists for sure…

And most of the grant (our) money given to a private company to install and maintain them, and then they get the income from the charge points on top. Meanwhile, the poorer people that paid for them can't afford an EV and pay more for the fuel for their cars and homes, as well as more for goods to recoup those companies shrinking profit margins.

 

[Alex321]

Just imagine if the government had invested a fraction of the money they've pumped into EV's, including new roads, into supporting alternatives ways of working to reduce the need to travel, and supporting alternative modes of transport to the private car.

At present, that would just have been wasted money because ... ⬇️

I wonder how many of those thinking they're 'green' because they can afford an EV and solar panels would be prepared to use public transport more?

Hardly any.

 

[vickster]

£20k for a tin box... good god.. no need cheaper.

Don’t hold your breath. How much is the oldest Zoe now?

 

[cougie uk]

The "honeymoon period" is set to end in 2025, when EV's are set to be come liable for VED. Hopefully based on the value of the vehicle.

LOL if you think that zero VED was the reason we bought electric.

1/8 of the fuel costs. Was 1/10.
Oh when I get my solar panels it will be less.
Less pollution.

And they're just very nice and easy to drive.

 

[jowwy]

LOL if you think that zero VED was the reason we bought electric.

1/8 of the fuel costs. Was 1/10.
Oh when I get my solar panels it will be less.
Less pollution.

And they're just very nice and easy to drive.

And it will probably be only 25 bucks anyway….just like my diesel car is. Hardly worth worrying about.

But the anti-car CC rhetoric is rife tonight.

 

[Alex321]

£20k for a tin box... good god.. no need cheaper.

£15K for a Skoda CITIGOe iV or £16K for a Seat e-Mii Electric. Both being 4 door models.