Are we being forced to go electric?

[classic33]

Called capitalism. The balance is not to overcharge and alienate your customers.

We should be all smiling that thousands of diesel vans will be gone from our towns and cities, providing much cleaner air. Heavy transport will follow on. Really looking forward to when you can walk down a street in a town or cities and not taste , smell the pollution from internal combustion engines

I'd much rather be able to walk down the footpath.

 

[biggs682]

Food aroma won't kill you or impact your health

You obviously don't walk past Gregg's or Subway very often then

 

[DRM]

500 miles carrying the equivalent to a medium sized truck, slowly judging by the number of vehicles overtaking them.

And they still have no date for delivery more exact than "This year".

https://www.volvotrucks.com/en-en/trucks/renewable-fuels/electric-trucks.html
Available to buy now, up to 300 km range at 44 tonnes, note the magic words up to, in reality it seems to 170 miles tops, not very good if your a trucker on tramping out all week

 

[chris-suffolk]

https://www.volvotrucks.com/en-en/trucks/renewable-fuels/electric-trucks.html
Available to buy now, up to 300 km range at 44 tonnes, note the magic words up to, in reality it seems to 170 miles tops, not very good if your a trucker on tramping out all week

Not a massive difference between 300km and 170 miles - about 10%, which will easily be lost depending on temperature, hills etc.

 

[CXRAndy]

The Tesla Semi has a claimed range of 500 miles thanks to its 1,000 kiloWatt hour battery pack, roughly 10 times larger than the packs fitted to long-range electric cars. Tesla claims the Semi is able to cover 500 miles on a single charge when fully laden and weighing 81,000lbs, roughly 36.7 tonnes.2 Dec 2022

 

[DRM]

Which is why electric milk floats were a thing 60 years ago.

Not really, they had DC motors & lead-acid batteries giving a very limited range & no regen charging

 

[DRM]

Not a massive difference between 300km and 170 miles - about 10%, which will easily be lost depending on temperature, hills etc.

Unfortunately it was a tractor unit with no trailer that I was told about, stick 44 tonnes on it & your going to get a lot less, especially in winter

 

[Chislenko]

Not really, they had DC motors & lead-acid batteries giving a very limited range & no regen charging

And no doors!!

 

[classic33]

The Tesla Semi has a claimed range of 500 miles thanks to its 1,000 kiloWatt hour battery pack, roughly 10 times larger than the packs fitted to long-range electric cars. Tesla claims the Semi is able to cover 500 miles on a single charge when fully laden and weighing 81,000lbs, roughly 36.7 tonnes.2 Dec 2022

So you keep on repeating.
The problem they are having now is they are unable to use the superchargers built for them. How long do they take to charge on a standard charger?

 

[CXRAndy]

SacramentoSo you keep on repeating.
The problem they are having now is they are unable to use the superchargers built for them. How long do they take to charge on a standard charger?

They have 4 chargers servicing 21 trucks.


At a logistics center near Sacramento, PepsiCo operates 21 Tesla Semis, along with four 750 kW Megachargers, which enable charging to 80% capacity in less than 45 minutes.5 days ago


View: https://youtu.be/2-rzCARH1h8

Tesla chargers much faster than the current competition out there

 

[classic33]

They have 4 chargers servicing 21 trucks.


At a logistics center near Sacramento, PepsiCo operates 21 Tesla Semis, along with four 750 kW Megachargers, which enable charging to 80% capacity in less than 45 minutes.5 days ago

Five of those are off the road, mentioned earlier. The charger being part of the problem, also mentioned earlier.
Also they are run less than 100 miles a day.

Note the word intends, as the fleet number has hasn't increased since then. It's down by five, due to charger issues. see earlier posts.

Edited to replace "has" with hasn't

 

[DRM]

No doubt there would not be but road safety organisations and the emergency services would no doubt be in favour.

Emergency services may find it in favour, and on occasion a disaster, having been stuck in lane 3 A1(M) overtaking a huge column of nose to tail hgv's trying to overtake one slower truck, it's no fun in a speed limited van (70mph) when a Police car on blues & two's comes up behind at very high speed & deploying the weave about behind you at 12" from your back bumper, Yes I've seen you, I've got no where to pull in & can't speed up to get out of your way, so back off you daffodill, one reason why you see this vehicle is limited to 70 mph stickers on vans

 

[All uphill]

Not really, they had DC motors & lead-acid batteries giving a very limited range & no regen charging

But they were still a thing.

 

[DRM]

But they were still a thing.

They were, but back then most dairies had a chiller unit in towns, the milk was dropped off overnight, the milkman came in loaded his float & did his round, usually very short distance wise, but the supermarkets killed it off with cheap milk, so these hubs ended up being closed

 

[classic33]

They have 4 chargers servicing 21 trucks.


At a logistics center near Sacramento, PepsiCo operates 21 Tesla Semis, along with four 750 kW Megachargers, which enable charging to 80% capacity in less than 45 minutes.5 days ago


View: https://youtu.be/2-rzCARH1h8

Tesla chargers much faster than the current competition out there

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They look real enough...