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Wobblers

Euthermic
Location
Minkowski Space
Having never used hub gears, what sort of range do you get - are we talking four or five gear choices or are there more, depending on the hub?

The chain ring on the model above only looks slightly larger than the hub ring at the back.

Depends on the hub. I've got an Alfine 8 on my Dahon, which gives you (surprise!) 8 gears. It's range is roughly the same as a 11-34 cassette, but it has large gaps between 4 -> 5 and 5 -> 6.

That Alfine 11 on the Day One has 11 speeds, and I believe the setup gives a similar range to conventional compact gearing.
 

Upstream

Active Member
That is a beautiful machine. I really like the idea of disc brakes, drop bars and hub gears but £1,700 - ouch!! they do an 8 speed one too in red - very snazzy looking but you wouldn't have much change out of £1200 for that one either.
 

palinurus

Velo, boulot, dodo
Location
Watford
It would be possible to do this sort of thing on the cheap with a lower price hub with fewer gears. For my commute three or four speed would work- get a suitable frame with disk mounts (and clearance for fat tyres in the winter in my case). I've certainly thought about it.

Having said that I don't see derailleurs as being high maintenance, simple (say) 8 spd setup on down tube shifters, single chainring up front, just keeps working with minimal attention- usual chain maintenance and lube pivots at intervals- and parts are cheap (I bought a- rather grimy- 105 8 speed mech for a penny on eBay once and had it on my commuter for two years). Hubs and enclosed chain (with stub axle wheel mount for easy puncture fixing) would improve matters but not many options there at the moment.
 

Jezston

Über Member
Location
London
A three speed would suffice in Ipswich as a commuter. I used to commute across the town on a very vintage 3 speed "who would nick it" roadster.

My commuter is a three speed steel road bike. Absolutely perfect for anything but serious hills.
 

compo

Veteran
Location
Harlow
I'd forgotten that I stayed this thread!

I still love the look of that bike, it could help me get the best time round the local reservoir :smile:

Do you mean Alton Water. A nice ride once you get up the hill past the ski slope. I have never ridden round it but ridden past it a few times en route to Manningtree.
 

Cyclopathic

Veteran
Location
Leicester.
I also don't see many maintenance advantages in hub gears. There is still the element of making sure they are set right and there is still cable wear and maitenance plus tha additional hassle that it is to get the back wheel on and off in cases of un planned deflation due to ingress of foriegn bodies to the tyre and innertube. With derailiers you can just pop the wheel out and in no problem. No awkward setting the chain to the right tension and all that.
 

biking_fox

Legendary Member
Location
Manchester
I also don't see many maintenance advantages in hub gears. There is still the element of making sure they are set right and there is still cable wear and maitenance plus tha additional hassle that it is to get the back wheel on and off in cases of un planned deflation due to ingress of foriegn bodies to the tyre and innertube. With derailiers you can just pop the wheel out and in no problem. No awkward setting the chain to the right tension and all that.​

Depends on the set-up. A Rohloff for example, has no adjustment necesary at all (not in 5 years anyway), no cable wear (there is one internal cable thathas been changed every 3 years or so), and the hassle of a wheel change is less than a derailuer. Unclip two twist cable clips, and you're set.

For the record Rohloff is a 14 gear hub - even spacing all the way through, 325% gear range - about the same as a MTB tripple. Feels like about the equivalent of 1.5 tooth increase in cassete cogs per gear.
 

Roadrider48

Voice of the people
Location
Londonistan
I just got the latest blast from Pro Bike Kit and it contained a link to this piece of sex! I've never considered a cyclocross bike as a commuter before being in love with my crap heap singlespeed as I am... but hub gears could be a lot kinder to my ageing knees than singlespeed!

I'm hilariously poor and there's no way I can afford a £1700 price tag, and I'd buy a carbon road bike for the weekends if I had that kind of money. But look at it! *rubs thighs*

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http://www.probikekit.com/uk/genesis-day-one-alfine-11-2013-cyclocross-bike.html
It is nice.
 
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