ASL regulations (sorry, motorbikes again)
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BentMikey
Rider of Seolferwulf
- Location
- South London
More importantly, do we care very much? It might or might not be wrong, but I don't have a problem with motorcycles coming to the front of the queue.
OP
OP
captain nemo1701
Space cadet. Deck 42 Main Engineering.
- Location
- Bristol
One motorbike in the ASL simply encourages others and the last thing we need is a safety reservoir full of motorbikes. the ASL might not be perfect but it's a cycling facility nonetheless and we should campaign for greater enforcement and improvement. Odd that underneath you sign 'who stole all the road space' - bikers in the ASL are 'stealing' safety space.
User: Yep, that's it. The biker made a point about that ASL being 'unmarked' or not red/green asphalt, oddly enough!.
He went on to say that it's legal for motorbikes to use ASL's in Bristol which have a bus lane leading up to them like this one.
Has a solid line, so I think this bloke is just trying it on.
G-Zero
Guru
- Location
- Kirkcudbright, SW Scotland
[QUOTE 1824815, member: 45"]By the letter of the law, all road vehicles should stop at the white line on a red light, and this includes bicycles.
It's a glitch in the planning, and one that Boris was trying to overcome a couple of years ago in London, though I'm not sure what the outcome of that was. And that's why feeder lanes were introduced.
New ASLs should all be marked up with feeder lanes, but there are still many older ones which aren't. And they're normally on the pavement side, which isn't helpful if you're not riding in the gutter approaching the junction. In Birmingham at least I've been told that the authorities take the right approach and wouldn't punish cyclists for crossing the line. Though to be honest I doubt many bobbies are aware of the problem.[/quote]
Hands up to that one
Only in the UK could we create a 'safe' area for cyclists and only allow them in to that 'safe' area if they contravene the law.
I can't imagine a cop would ever try to prosecute a cyclist under such circumstances and even if they did, I can't see it getting very far, but you are correct, technically the offence would be committed.
You may have a different experience of such matters from one of the big cities and if they have tried to prosecute, all I can say is "thank goodness I
up north"
It's a glitch in the planning, and one that Boris was trying to overcome a couple of years ago in London, though I'm not sure what the outcome of that was. And that's why feeder lanes were introduced.
New ASLs should all be marked up with feeder lanes, but there are still many older ones which aren't. And they're normally on the pavement side, which isn't helpful if you're not riding in the gutter approaching the junction. In Birmingham at least I've been told that the authorities take the right approach and wouldn't punish cyclists for crossing the line. Though to be honest I doubt many bobbies are aware of the problem.[/quote]
Hands up to that one
Only in the UK could we create a 'safe' area for cyclists and only allow them in to that 'safe' area if they contravene the law.
I can't imagine a cop would ever try to prosecute a cyclist under such circumstances and even if they did, I can't see it getting very far, but you are correct, technically the offence would be committed.
You may have a different experience of such matters from one of the big cities and if they have tried to prosecute, all I can say is "thank goodness I
up north"