AVerage cadence query (probably a case of how long is a piece of string)

[CXRAndy]

Its going to be difficult to actively train with lower HR and cadence drills with such gradients- unless you have gearing on your bike/bikes that allows to bring your efforts uphill into Z2 whilst spinning.

That's why I prefer and predominantly do all my specific training, indoors and leave easy fun riding outdoors. I'm doing a Zwift recovery ride this morning- recovering from Covid, I will post my stats when finished- I'll edit this post with them.

 

[FrothNinja]

My computer doesn't ignore the 0 cadence parts when averaging.

Mine doesn't appear to either

 

[iandg]

Mine doesn't appear to either

There's an option in sensor setup on Wahoo to turn on/off "include zeros in average cadence"

 

[Dogtrousers]

There's an option in sensor setup on Wahoo to turn on/off "include zeros in average cadence"

Same with my Garmin Edge 530, but I can't speak for other Garmins. It's under "Data recording" in system settings.

 

[CXRAndy]

Here you go FrothNinja.

As they say picture paints a thousand words. I recorded my ride, so you can see what I get upto for riding indoors, this is my recovery. After about 40 mins I dropped my cadence to lower my HR-I didn't want to push it after COVID last week.

You can watch, if you wish, then ask any queries

View: https://youtu.be/J6JMBc6cE9U
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Check out my activity on Strava: https://strava.app.link/0ORg1R7Ezrb

 

[FrothNinja]

Mine doesn't appear to either

I was wrong - but it does now

 

[FrothNinja]

Did a ride to cadence (I think) at lunch time - aimed at keeping it around 70 to 80 - and I have set my edge to include the 0s. I found it an exercise in mental discipline not to clunk it into a stiffer gear and ride like normal. I will do the same run later today or tomorrow but just doing it 'normally' and see if there is much of a difference.
I stuffed up the recording so it ended up in 2 bits, but here are the two sets of stats

• 2.72mi
  Distance
• 14:39
  Moving Time
• 64ft
  Elevation

• 72W
  Estimated Avg Power
• 64kJ
  Energy Output

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	Avg	Max
Speed	11.2mi/h	17.3mi/h
Heart Rate	132bpm	142bpm
Cadence	74	109
Calories	149
Temperature	22℃
Elapsed Time	14:39

Heart Rate Zones​

Zone 5 > 170 bpm • Maximum 0:00 0%
Zone 4 151 - 169 bpm • Threshold 0:00 0%
Zone 3 132 - 150 bpm • Aerobic 4:55 33%
Zone 2 113 - 131 bpm • Easy 9:36 66%
Zone 1 95 - 112 bpm • Warm Up 0:00 0%

RIDE B

• 5.66mi
  Distance
• 29:10
  Moving Time
• 44ft
  Elevation

• 62W
  Estimated Avg Power
• 108kJ
  Energy Output

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	Avg	Max
Speed	11.6mi/h	23.5mi/h
Heart Rate	133bpm	140bpm
Cadence	79	103
Calories	297
Temperature	22℃
Elapsed Time	29:50

Heart Rate Zones​

Zone 5 > 170 bpm • Maximum 0:00 0%
Zone 4 151 - 169 bpm • Threshold 0:00 0%
Zone 3 132 - 150 bpm • Aerobic 4:55 33%
Zone 2 113 - 131 bpm • Easy 9:36 66%
Zone 1 95 - 112 bpm • Warm Up 0:00 0%

 

[CXRAndy]

It took a couple of winters to train up my pedal cadence from 70s to 90s

 

[FrothNinja]

I'm finding it tricky to do 70/80s and keep it in Zone 2

 

[CXRAndy]

I'm finding it tricky to do 70/80s and keep it in Zone 2

It takes time, doesn't happen quickly. Made more difficult by climbs, where gearing needs to be low enough to keep you in the zone

 

[FrothNinja]

Just done a slightly longer version of yesterday's lunchtime ride but at my 'natural' cadence. There are differences, my cadence is quite a bit lower.

• 10.09mi
  Distance
• 48:23
  Moving Time
• 123ft
  Elevation

• 88W
  Estimated Avg Power
• 255kJ
  Energy Output

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	Avg	Max
Speed	12.5mi/h	21.2mi/h
Heart Rate	142bpm	156bpm
Cadence	66	102
Calories	537
Temperature	22℃
Elapsed Time	49:25

Zone 5 > 170 bpm • Maximum 0:00 0%
Zone 4 151 - 169 bpm • Threshold 0:52 1%
Zone 3 132 - 150 bpm • Aerobic 46:05 93%
Zone 2 113 - 131 bpm • Easy 2:17 4%
Zone 1 95 - 112 bpm • Warm Up 0:00 0%

 

[CXRAndy]

I'm going up virtual Alpe d Zwift in an hour. Z2 ish

 

[Deleted member 26715]

I'm going up virtual Alpe d Zwift in an hour. Z2 ish

Can you get off & walk if it's too steep?

 

[CXRAndy]

Can you get off & walk if it's too steep?

If I had a treadmill linked

I shouldn't have tried to hold power given how warm it was today. Heart rate numbers went out of the door. I began to crumble with 3 turns to go. Way out of practice for these endurance events.

Unlike the real climb, it's get slightly cooler the higher you go

Check out my activity on Strava: https://strava.app.link/M7tWhQCuDrb

 

[FrothNinja]

Today's lunch run results, tried upping the average cadence. Spinning quicker in the lower gears made my knees hurt and the ride was very bouncy so I did the last 75%ish in a stiffer gear which helped a huge amount with the knees but seems to have upped the heartrate.
Question - I have set my edge to count the 0 rpm bits in the averaging, does it also add in the times when I am stationary??

• 10.01mi
  Distance
• 54:15
  Moving Time
• 70ft
  Elevation

• 61W
  Estimated Avg Power
• 199kJ
  Energy Output

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	Avg	Max
Speed	11.1mi/h	20.5mi/h
Heart Rate	135bpm	145bpm
Cadence	78	113
Calories	530
Temperature	19℃
Elapsed Time	56:56

Zone 5 > 170 bpm • Maximum 0:00 0%
Zone 4 151 - 169 bpm • Threshold 0:00 0%
Zone 3 132 - 150 bpm • Aerobic 44:59 78%
Zone 2 113 - 131 bpm • Easy 9:51 17%
Zone 1 95 - 112 bpm • Warm Up 2:07 3%